[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Some help with some images

Sat Jul 25 20:58:35 PDT 2015

Hi Rose,

    I wondered about that also, but there is no similarity at all between the examples we have of the digit '3' and the digit in question.  Blowing up the image as much as I could, I saw something that indicated that the right side of the upper half of the digit might not be hand-written at all but rather a piece of dust or something else.  If you disregard that wiggly stroke, the rest of the digit is almost identical to the digit '5' in the entry number (75) and the entry for the age of the first godfather (45).  There is one good example of the digit '9' in the birthdate (29),

    I agree that this is a bit of a stretch, but of all the possibilities, this looks like the best candidate.

    As for the age of the wife, BTW, I learn more towards 30 than 36.  The second digit in her age bears no resemblance to the second digit in the next entry number (76).  Again, however, it is not conclusive.  We would need more evidence to come to a final conclusion.  It would help a lot if we had the birth records from other children to compare with.

    -Paul

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From: Rose Ingram <roseingram at shaw.ca>
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Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Some help with some images

Paul, 

I wonder ifs what we see as 97 could actually be 37, a very sloppy 3. 

And "gem. Janikowie" may be Janikowic. 

Rose  

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   Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 5:48 PM  

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Hi Sarah,  

    You are very close on many of your assumptions.  Here's some more detail that I can add:  

Column 1:  Record number  
Column 2:  Christening date and time - 25 April morning at 9:00  
Column 3:  Normally the name and age of the father.  However, in this case, a place is also given, implying that the father does not live in the place where the christening took place.  The place name of Marjonowie is followed by what looks like "gem. Janikowie" which would mean a location within or very near Maryanowie. Not sure what the last number means, but it does look like a 97.  Compare the time of the christening with the number, ad there is some doubt about it being a 97. Not sure what it might be, though.  Compare also with the date of the birth.  Might a 57 if the right-hand side of the top half of the numeral is assumed to be a piece of dust of something else no part of the number.  There are several examples of the number 5 elsewhere in the first two entries on the page that show similarities if you discount that faint mark.  
Column 4:  godparents.  
Column 5:  Gender of the child  
Column 6:  date of bith and time; 29 Mar midday 12:00  
Column 7: name and age of the mother  
Column 8:  Given name of the child  
Column 9:  presumably the name of the godmother  

The third entry on the page is in a different handwriting, so we can't use anything from that entry for comparison purposes.  

Good luck!  

    -Paul  

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From: Sarah Nielsen <  sarahsolen at hotmail.com>  
To: SGGEE <  ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org>  
Sent: Sat, Jul 25, 2015 5:04 pm  
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Some help with some images  

I recently got a copy of some parish records.  I'm not exactly sure where  
the images are from (I will find out), but they were from someone who believed  
that they were the right records for my family.  
Here is the link to one of  
them:https://flic.kr/p/wct3QP  
The first line in the image is a birth record for  
Gottlieb Jesswein. I am pretty sure that he is my great-great-great grandfather.  
I just want to verify that I am reading the document correctly since my German  
is pretty limited. Information I do know: I have a Polish document (created in  
1936) from family records. We had it translated and it verifies that the  
Gottlieb Jesswein in my family was born the 29th of March 1840 to the parents  
George Jesswein and Katharina Schulz in Marjanowie (or possibly Marjanowic).  

Here is my best guess at what the document in the link above says. Any  
corrections and help are welcome.  
Column #1 = Record NumberColumn #2 = 25 Apr  
and then it says something else--not sure whatColumn #3 = The place (it looks  
close to Marjanowie) and Father's name (George Jeswein) followed by something  
else, possibly his age. I would have guessed the number is 97 but that isn't  
likely.Column #4 = 2 names and ages? -- I'm guessing they are godfathersColumn  
#5 = Says whether it is a son or daughterColumn #6 = Some more dates -- To me it  
looks like it says 29 March but then it has some more info again.Column #7 =  
Mother's name of Catharina nee Schultz with a number, possibly 36Column #8 =  
Gottlieb (child's given name)Column #9 = Anna Rosina Schmittke -- possibly  
Godmother  
Thanks for your help,  
Sarah Nielsen  

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