[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Scheppel village
Katrin Hanko
katrin at bokser.ee
Thu Jan 2 10:59:55 PST 2014
Dear Jerry, dear Bernd,
thank you for your replies!
Jerry, I can read Cyrillic text indeed. There is no doubt that this Scheppel
is a place name. The sentence says "... born in the village Scheppel in
Prussia...". I have tried Schöppel, Schappel, Scheppeldorf, etc. but with
no better success. So your suggestions of Scheppelwitz or Schepelse or
Czaple (suggested by Edelgard) or another Czaple (suggested by Frank) are
perfect options. It seems that I have to wait for more church books of
Lask/Zdunska Wola to be published on internet (there are only records from
1871 and 1872) - perhaps there will be an answer for me :) Thank you all
very much!
By the way - for the period of appr. 1820 ~ 1840 there are a lot of records
to be found in Mikolajewice Roman Catholic church books. The Germans
residing in villages like Chorzeszow, Jesionna, Ludowinka, Huta Janowska,
etc., used to go to Mikolajewice before switching to Lask Ewangelical church
some time in 1840-1850. I have found a lot of valuable information there.
And other thing which could be interesting to all - at the beginning of 20th
century some German families (from Wolhynia and from Poland among other
parts of Russian Empire) came to Estonia and established 3-4 small German
colonies. You can find their records in local church books, they are
available on internet. Please feel free to ask me, if you need some
guidance.
Best regards
Katrin
Tallinn, Estonia
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bernd" <ben.angel at t-online.de>
To: "Jerry Frank" <franklyspeaking at shaw.ca>; "Katrin Hanko"
<katrin at bokser.ee>
Cc: <ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Scheppel village
Hello Jerry, hello Katrin,
what do you think about Schepelse (Scheipelse) in Niedersachsen. It belongs
today to Eicklingen. Look here: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eicklingen.
Best regards
Bernd Engelhorn
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
From: Jerry Frank
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 3:06 PM
To: Katrin Hanko
Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Scheppel village
Since you are from Estonia, you are probably fluent in reading Cyrillic.
However, I must ask - is it possible you are reading a surname rather than a
place name? A general search indicates that it appears very commonly as a
surname and not at all as a place name. I also tried Schoeppel as a variant
spelling (and Czeppel as a Polish variant) and got the same results.
Having said that, this site http://kartenmeister.com/preview/databaseuwe.asp
does offer Scheppelwitz as a place name in Prussia. It is the closest match
I could find. Might be worth at least trying a search in that region since
nothing else seems possible. Also checked the Ellis Island records. No one
showed Scheppel as a place of origin but a couple did show Scheppelwitz
again.
Jerry
Calgary, AB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Katrin Hanko" <katrin at bokser.ee>
To: ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2014 11:04:23 PM
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Scheppel village
Hello,
My 4th great-grandmother Dorota Frank, nee Kutzner died in 1872 in Jesionna,
Lask at the age of 75. Her death record is to be found here:
http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/metryka.php?ar=3&zs=1553d&sy=1872&kt=3&plik=047-050.jpg
- record No. 48.
It says that she was born in the village Шеппель in Prussia, which would be
'Scheppel' if transliterated. But I have no idea where this village could
have been situated. I have found only "Scheppel / Dorf auf dem Westerwald im
Amt Siegen" in "Wetterauischer Geographus:....." by Johann Hermann Dielhelm,
but this seams to be not the right place as it is far from Prussia. Besides
that - I cannot find any other source (e. g. old maps) indicating that this
village even existed or where it was.
I'd be grateful for any suggestion that could help me to find out where the
Kutzner family came from.
Best regards
Katrin
Tallinn, Estonia
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