[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ger-Poland-Volhynia] EWZ Marriage Data Query - Ruck

[kenkrell at comcast.net]

To All, 



I agree with Gary There is a least one reference to a deceased person. Don't rely just on the LDS films, the National archives in College Park, Maryland has many more records. 



Ken 



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From: "Gary Warner" <garyw555 at gmail.com> 
To: "Randy Svenson" <randy_svenson at yahoo.com>, "Jerry Frank" <franklyspeaking at shaw.ca>, "Karl Krueger" <dabookk54 at yahoo.com> 
Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org 
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:16:35 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ger-Poland-Volhynia] EWZ Marriage Data Query - Ruck 

To all, 

Then lucky me.  The only family member of mine caught up in EWZ was the 
daughter of my great aunt, and her children.   That EWZ58 record shows 
full data on her deceased husband and also her parents, even to the 
detail of noting that her mother was in the United States. 

Gary Warner 

On 2/19/2014 5:58 AM, Randy Svenson wrote: 
> It has been my experience with the EWZ, as limited as it is, that deceased spouses were not mentioned.  The date and place of marriage was listed on the Stammblatt, but usually not the spouse if deceased.  It is possible to find children from that marriage than the deceased Mother or Father is probably listed.  Cross reference with Grandmother or Grandfather for accuracy if listed.  For that matter, the first marriage may not be listed at all if the living spouse re-married.  Older children of the first marriage may or may not be listed under the second marriage, depending on their age.  Adult children have their own card.  Comparing the age of child to the date of marriage can be a give-a-way.  A few months would be difficult to tell, ten years would indicate a previous marriage.  Children that were listed at time of record and then died after the record date were simply "lined out". 
> 
> Randy Svenson 
>   
> Searching: Pohl, Paetsch, Nixdorf. 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 11:24 PM, Jerry Frank <franklyspeaking at shaw.ca> wrote: 
>     
> And just to add to that, the EWZ were used in large measure to prove German ethnicity.  Mentioning a Russian husband might have been detrimental to the process. 
> 
> 
> Jerry 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Karl Krueger" <dabookk54 at yahoo.com> 
> To: "David Yakel" <djyakel at gmail.com>, ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 8:10:02 PM 
> Subject: [Shaw Suspected Junk Email] Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] EWZ Marriage Data Query - Ruck 
> 
> Dear David, 
> EWZ normally only provides the current or most recent marriage on its records. Sometimes they might indicate previous/deceased spouses but I really don't know if they did it that much when they were going through Russia. So if you don't see it don't be alarmed. 
> 
> Karl 
> 
> 
> ________________________________ 
> From: David Yakel <djyakel at gmail.com> 
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 5:30 PM 
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] EWZ Marriage Data Query - Ruck 
>     
> 
> Re:  EWZ record for Alwine Lauersdorf (Ruck) born 1894, married 1928. 
> 
> Is it possible that Alwine's first marriage to a Russian soldier around 
> 1912 was not given when her EWZ form was completed? 
> 
> My grandmother who came to Canada left behind 3 younger sisters   1. Alwine 
> (I have a postcard)   2.?? EWZ has Helene - same as my moms middle name 
> 3. ?? EWZ has Clementine unmarried (grandmother said she was a bit "odd" & 
> still single).  Their father's name was August, my grandmother is 
> Ausgustina.  They all lived in Antonettental & there are no other families 
> with just girls in the records.  If she could have left the marriage out, 
> then I am thinking they are my family. 
> 
> Are there any other records I could look at? 
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