[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 125, Issue 8
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BruceB2332 at aol.com
Thu Oct 10 21:15:59 PDT 2013
My grandmother's maiden name ws Krueger.
Her first name was Lydia, and her parents names were Wilhelm Krueger, also
Fredrich, and Henrietta Badke Krueger. She was married to Gottlieb Braun,
whose parents names were Michael Braun and Mathilda nee Doepner Braun. ARe
any of these names familiar to anyone?
Bruce Braun
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Today's Topics:
1. Question for those that know DNA (gswilson19 at aol.com)
2. the name Bloch in Dorofejewka (Linda Bowen)
3. Re: Pabianice microfilms (Gerald Klatt)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 17:05:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: gswilson19 at aol.com
To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Question for those that know DNA
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I have a question about a match on FTDNA. On my male Krueger line , and
another person's Ritter line, it says on 25 markers they are 2 steps
removed, on 37 markers 3 steps, and on 67 3 steps. Is this a significant match
even though they have different last names?
Gail
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 16:37:39 -0500
From: Linda Bowen <lindakbowen at cox.net>
To: ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] the name Bloch in Dorofejewka
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I am at this point grasping at straws.
My Grandfather Theodor Bloch was born in Dorofejewka in 1891.
His father was August Bloch and Mother Emelie Stebner.
The Bloch/Stebner marriage record on LDS film is just an index and
August's brother Gustav's marriage record also is just an index
So looking at those did not help.
I found a Freiderich Wilhelm August Bloch in a family tree on
ancestry. It appears to have been submitted from Germany
where these people died. ( Brandenburg)
This Frederich was born in Kossebude, Turek, Poland in 1862
His parents were August Bloch and Susanne Stibbe.
VKP records has two more children born to this Bloch/Stibbe marriage,
one born in Marianna Michalowka and one in Dorofejewka.
Frederich married a Euphrosyne Rosenke (B . Dorofejewka 1864)
They had 8 children between1885 and 1901.
The first two born in Dorofejewka and the rest listed in Shitomir.
3 names given these children (August Theodore, Olga, and Alwine) were
also names used in my grandfather's immediate family.
It seems to me these families often kept using many of the same names
Perhaps this Friederich might be a brother of my August Bloch.
I thought I might try to find records for this area in Poland.
So, I have a question for you experienced researchers.
Is this too big a leap, especially since Bloch is such a common name.?
I was thinking that relatives often moved together and these communities
were not that large.
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 09:42:15 -0700
From: "Gerald Klatt" <gerald.klatt at shaw.ca>
To: "Jan Textor" <textor_jan at hotmail.com>, "Bernd"
<ben.angel at t-online.de>, <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Pabianice microfilms
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Thanks Jan
I had encountered those dates too and questioned them. Thanks for
explaining
why they exist.
Now... how are most of you dealing with how to record them? Are you
showing
both dates in your database? Or, are you showing just one or the other
(Julian or Gregorian) and making a notation Old Style (OS) or New Style
(NS)
with the one you selected?
Regards,
Gerald
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From: "Jan Textor" <textor_jan at hotmail.com>
To: "Bernd" <ben.angel at t-online.de>;
<ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Pabianice microfilms
Hello Bernd,
The first date (23 Apr 1846) was following the Julian calendar
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendar),
used by the Russians during that period, while the second date (5 May
1846)
followed the Gregorian calendar
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar) which was and is used
by
the western world.
The equivalent christening dates are 24 Apr and 6 May, 1846.
Hope this helps.
Jan Textor
> From: ben.angel at t-online.de
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 16:10:25 +0200
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Pabianice microfilms
>
> Hello,
> thank you for the Link with the Pabianice records. I have a question now:
>
> in some birth- and death records I can find two dates. For example:
birth
> 1846 number 79
>
>
http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/metryka.php?ar=3&zs=1615d&sy=1846&kt=1&plik=079-082.jpg
>
> birth of Luiza Engelhorn, was the birth on 23rd of April and christening
> on
> 5th of May, or what is the meaning of this two dates?
>
> Thank you for any reply.
>
> Bernd Engelhorn
>
> www.engelhorn-ahnen.de
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> From: Jan Textor
> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 7:52 PM
> To: Rose Ingram ; ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Pabianice microfilms
>
> Hello Rose,
>
> The Lutheran Pabianice Church records for the period 1827-1912 have been
> published online here:
> http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/ar3-zs1615d
>
> Hope this helps.
> Jan Textor
>
> > From: roseingram at shaw.ca
> > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 17:44:27 -0700
> > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Pabianice microfilms
> >
> > Does anyone have access to Pabianice Film #714495?
> >
> > Rose Ingram
> >
> > Poland, L?dz, Pabianice (Pabianice) - Church records
> > Akta urodzen, malzenstw, zgon?w 1856-1862 - FHL INTL Film [ 714495 ]
> >
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