[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] [Ger-Poland-VoSigrid, Don,

Mon Jul 29 09:49:41 PDT 2013

Feedback from family on-line for a correction. Thank you Helmut, Otti and Mom for keeping me on my toes!  (Next time I'll check with those who were THERE!)

Lastenausgleich was actually based on the assets reported to and listed with the Commission in the fall of 1939 in Wolhynia before families were relocated to Warthegau and elsewhere.  The Commission would record all the families holdings - land, equipment, animals, household goods etc..  So when an assessment was made it was not based on the family's "need" - but on the assets actually reported. This also applied to other owners of property, businesses or factories - not just farm families.

As sigrid pointed out, applications had to be made to the government to obtain this settlement - whether they lived in West Germany or abroad. However, those living in the then East Germany were not able to do so until after the Wall came down in 1989 (if the owners themselves were deceased, next of kin were able to apply). 

Hopefully I got this right!

There may have been an article in either an early Journal or Wandering Wolhynian issue on this subject....

Helen

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The wise man must remember that while he is a descendant of the past, he is a parent of the future. 
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 From: Helen Gillespie <hgillespie at rogers.com>
To: Sigrid Pohl Perry <perry1121 at aol.com>; "ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org" <ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org> 
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 10:11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] [Ger-Poland-VoSigrid, Don,

Sigrid, Don et al,

My family too were involved in this Lastenausgleich.  At least my Mom's parents, although they received very little, from my understanding.

Both my Dad's (Berestowiec Kreis Kostopol area) and Mom's (Solomka Kr. Rowno area) sides were in Wolhynian from the 1860s to 1940, processed and resettled in Warthegau, then on to Germany and some to Canada from 1950-52.

As Sigrid said, some time in the 1960s this Lastenausgleich was being processed for ethnic Germans who lost territory and possessions during the resettlement - all the countries from which Germans were repatriated. There were members of my grandparents' church who helped members deal with the paperwork, I understand.

My Mom's parents did not get much from my understanding because part of it was based on need and they were reasonably well established by then financially.  My Dad's stepmother in Germany had been raising 7 children on her own since 1945 and was granted a fair sum.  Apparently during the 1939-40 process assets were recorded - somewhere - and some of the settlement was based on that.

As my father was just 15 in 1940, the settlement went to his stepmother, who of course had een widowed and raising his younger siblings and step-brother.

There is some info on Wikipedia - in German - 
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lastenausgleichsgesetz. See under "Vertriebene" - refugees - which fits into our families situations.

Helen

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The wise man must remember that while he is a descendant of the past, he is a parent of the future.
--Herbert Spencer

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From: Sigrid Pohl Perry <perry1121 at aol.com>
To: ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org 
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 3:24:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Fw: Nature of Document

Don,

My parents' families lived in Lublin parish from about 1860-1940. They, 
too, were resettled to the Warthegau region, men served in the German 
army, and the families fled the Russians in 1945. We immigrated to the 
US in 1952 from the Hamburg area. Sometime in the 1960s my cousin, who 
taught high school German in a nearby town, helped my father apply for 
this kind of compensation for land lost in Poland. He and my uncle both 
received settlements of the kind you describe. I'm not sure I have the 
documents; I was only in high school or away at college at the time.

Sigrid Pohl Perry

On 7/27/2013 2:11 PM, Don Miller wrote:
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> List, I have in my possession a document relating to my family in Korsysc, Volhynia.  It originally came from one of the persons listed on the document.  The document appears, from the description of my friend george shoning, to be related to some kind of attempt to get payment of lost land.  My Mueller referred to in the document lived in Korsysc from ca 1930 to 1940, when he was resettled to the Warthegau.  Could this document have been in response to his attempt to get reimbursement for the land he lost at that time?  Does anyone know about this kind of thing?  (Sorry, I can't attach the actual document, but perhaps you can get a fairly good idea of the nature of the document from George's translation below).
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> The document appears to be an attachment to a transcript of May 16, 1963 (Anlage der Niederschrift vom 16. May 1963).  Its title is "List of Calculation of Damages (or Losses) of Agriculatural Operations".  The location is the "Homeland Information Office Poland II at the National Equalization (or Compensation) Office of Lower Saxony".
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> From: "Don Miller"<dnmiller at whiz.to>
> To: "Geo Shoning"<shoning at q.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 9:27:27 PM
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> George, attached is a record of one of my families.  Can you tell me where it might have come from?  Archives?  it looks like a list of church members in the village of Korsyse, but from where?  I got it years ago from a hildebrandt in wnp., who is now dead,  thanks for your on-going help.
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