[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Sonderzug XXVII and Soldau Lager Blücher

Rose Ingram roseingram at shaw.ca
Thu Dec 5 14:46:10 PST 2013


Andreas,

Yes, the spelling should be Bispingen; near Soltau as written on their marriage record.

Rose.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Andreas Leyer 
  To: 'Rose Ingram' ; ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org 
  Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 12:14 PM
  Subject: AW: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia]Sonderzug XXVII and Soldau Lager Blücher


  Hello Rose,

  do you know the place called "Bispengen"? I think its "Bispingen" near by
  Soltau, about 80 km north of Hannover. 

  Andreas

  www.familie-leyer.de 

  > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
  > Von: Ger-Poland-Volhynia [mailto:ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at sggee.org] Im
  > Auftrag von Rose Ingram
  > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2013 18:48
  > An: Pernille Natascha Sidorenco; ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org
  > Betreff: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia]Sonderzug XXVII and Soldau Lager Blücher
  > 
  > You pose an interesting question.   I hope others on this list will have
  > some answers.
  > 
  > My father was living in Kutno at the time of the 'expulsion'.  But I do
  > not know when or how he may have left and ended up in Hannover area.
  > Unfortunately I never had a chance to ask.
  > 
  > My mother was also living near Kutno and apparently she was on the 'last
  > train out'.  Where she ended up in Germany, I do not know. She did not
  > talk much about the War days.
  > 
  > They met in Germany and married in 1945 in a place called Bispengen and
  > migrated Canada in 1948.
  > 
  > Rose Ingram
  > 
  > 
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: Pernille Natascha Sidorenco
  >   To: ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org
  >   Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 8:51 AM
  >   Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Sonderzug XXVII and Soldau Lager Blücher
  > 
  > 
  >   My father arrived at Soldau Lager Blücher 18.12 1943 by Sonderzug XXVII.
  > 
  >   I am seeking any kind of information about Sonderzug XXVII;
  > 
  > 
  > 
  >   -Was Sonderzug XXVII part of die Fliegende Kommission?
  > 
  >   - Was die Fliegende Kommission still examining settlers "on the road" in
  >   1943, or were the trains used merely for transportation of refugees?
  > 
  >   - Was Sonderzug XXVII usually used for transportation to Soldau?
  > 
  >   - Where did the train come from? Lodz/Litzmannstadt perhaps?
  > 
  >   - Is it in any way possible the Sonderzug XXVII could have come from
  > Warsaw?
  > 
  > 
  > 
  >   Does anybody know anything about the evacuationplans in Poland around
  > dec
  >   1943?
  > 
  >   I was told they arrived at Krakow trainstation, and that the Germans had
  > two
  >   trains leaving; one for Posen and the other for Soldau. They chose
  > Soldau.
  > 
  > 
  > 
  >   Would it be possible to travel directly from Krakow to Soldau, or would
  > you
  >   have to switch trains in Lodz?
  > 
  > 
  > 
  >   Any detail about the trains, routes, evacuation, the overall scene in
  >   Krakow/Lodz would be much appreciated.
  > 
  > 
  > 
  >   My father's escape route went from Kiev, Vinnytsia, Ternopil,
  > L'wow/Lemberg
  >   to Krakow. Between Krakow and Soldau something happened.
  > 
  >   Knowing about Sonderzug XXVII that took my father to Soldau might be
  > able to
  >   tell me where this happened.
  > 
  > 
  > 
  >   On a note - would anybody know specifics about Soldau Lager Blücher?
  > 
  >   My father's "address" was
  > 
  >   Lg. Scharnhorst, Haus Berlin, Zimmer 20
  > 
  > 
  > 
  >   Could this be something that still exists? Does pictures exist?
  > 
  > 
  > 
  >   I would much appreciate any input, thank you
  > 
  > 
  > 
  >   Natascha Sidorenco
  > 
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