[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Volhynian Germans in Cleveland, OH?

Sun Sep 16 13:46:22 PDT 2012

Jerry,

I have a family tie, but not much detail.  My great uncle, Rynholt (Ronald)
Breen (was Bruhn), was born in Whitesand, SK in 1903 to Frederick Bruhn (or
Bruehn) and Caroline Lehmann.

Frederick was born in Konisberg, GE, but Caroline is from "Polish Russia" -
apparently a Baptist.  Frederick migrated to the US via Ellis Island in 1892
with his first wife Auguste Pones/Pong?? and two boys and settled in
Cleveland Ohio where they had two daughters.  Auguste apparently died about
1896.  

Frederick and Caroline Lehmann were married in Cleveland, Ohio after April
1896 and moved to the Northwest Territories not long thereafter - their
daughter Emma was born in Ebenezer, SK January, 1899.

I have not identified Caroline's parents or found record of her migration to
Cleveland, but believe that Caroline had at least two brothers Gustav and
August who moved to the Ebenezer/Orkney area.

Gary

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   1. Volhynian Germans in Cleveland, OH? (Jerry Frank)
   2. update: Norenberg, Henschke, and others,	Brzeziny area
      (Mauricio Norenberg)

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Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:23:45 -0600 (MDT)
From: Jerry Frank <franklyspeaking at shaw.ca>
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Volhynian Germans in Cleveland, OH?
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I believe that I have encountered a small pocket of German Volhynians in
Cleveland and was wondering if any of our readers have such roots that track
through there.

Specifically, Ella HERMANN, born 1905 in Dresden, ND, daughter of Martin
(aka Heinrich) Hermann and Natalie STUBEL, was married to Reinhold William,
10 Jun 1923 in Cleveland.  Since her husband's given name is clearly
Germanic and since his birth place is given as Russia, his surname is almost
certainly originally WILHELM.  This Stubel family is related to me.  Natalie
was the daughter of Karl Stubel and Caroline Klatt who settled in Woodley,
SK.  

In one of the US censuses, we find a Karl STUBEL and family also living in
Cleveland and also with origins in Russia.  This family is not yet in my
database.  However - Ella had an uncle Karl (also a son of Karl and Caroline
above) who, until now, was thought to have been verschlept in Volhynia.  His
age indicates a possible fit.  Could he have, in fact, found his way to the
States and settled in Cleveland?

And finally, a HEMMINGER family from Volhynia is known to be living in
Cleveland.  They are most certainly related to me though I have not yet
found the definitive link.

Jerry Frank

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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:31:10 +1200
From: Mauricio Norenberg <mauricio.norenberg at gmail.com>
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] update: Norenberg, Henschke, and
	others,	Brzeziny area
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Hi researchers,

If anybody else are stuck in Brzeziny, here is the advice: there's ALWAYS a
way! :)

Some of you might remember about me being stuck in the lack of Brzeziny
records.
About an year ago I contacted Watta Research (strongly recommended) and
managed to get small but important vital information: I discovered who were
the parents of Ferdynand Norenberg (father of my Johann Norenberg, born in
Dmosin, 1860). The parents of Ferdynand are Johann Nuernberg and Rozyna nee
Schindler.

I spent some hours reading through ger-pol-volhynia  list's archives and
googling but there are so much information that I get lost. I'm not sure
where should I head next in order to find more information.

Here's the map that concerns:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14577001/brzeziny_map.png

So basically the resume of locations I found traces of my family in the 1830
to 1860's:
Lodz Parish, Nwosolna Parish, Teolin, Osiny, Dmosin, Stoki, Budy Bedonskie.

Nowosolna Lutheran Parish

Marriage 1.11.1863
Michal Norenberg born in Teolin, son of Jan (Johann) and Rozyna nee
Schindler
20 years old  with
Marianna Herman daughter of Michal and Rozyna nee  Engler
20 years old

Marriage 1865
Wilhelm  Norenberg born in Teolin, son of Jan (Johann) and Rozyna nee
Schindler
20 years old  with
Anna Luiza Rell
18 years old
witness: Ferdynand Norenberg living in Osiny, 36 years old (Wilhelm`s
brother)

lutheran parish ??d?
 * Budy Bedo?skie 23.02.1831
Samuel Norenberg son of Jan (Johann) Norenberg and Rozyna geb Schindler

In the index of civil records Dmosin, Tomaszow archive I found entries
regarding Jan Norenberg,Olga Norenberg and Gustaw,Norenberg from Stoki.

So, with all up to date I have:

**Jan (Johann) N?renberg, married with Rozine nee Schindler - (prob.
married in early 1830's or late 1820's)
children
Michal Norenberg married with Marianna Herman Samuel Norenberg Wilhem
Norenberg **Ferdynand Norenberg born ~1829 married with Anna Karoline Markus
(married maybe in the 1850 to 1860's) children (known) Andreas Norenberg
Gottffried Norenberg Emilie Norenberg born in Osiny married with Gottlieb
Henschke in 1880's, Volhynia, Rozyzscze **Johann Norenberg born in Dmosin
married with Julianna Braun in 1887, Sapust Kieselin, Rozyzscze files
**grandmother (born in Brazil) **mother **me

Any clues much appreciated.

What I **think** is I should start looking at Ilow Parish, what you people
think?

Some interesting findings are under Ilow confirmations:

Johann Nuernberg, confirmed in 18 Mar 1812 Location: Brzeziny,
Village: Kalloczin\Kolacin, NE Brzeziny [Mod Po]

I believe this could be the father of my ggg-grandfather Johann, but who
knows? The village is close enough.

My new targets are:

* Find as much records of any kind from all of this people, I think the
challenge is the timeframe of 1800 to 1850's (now I'm in Duchy of Warsaw
also)
* Trace them back to Germany

Regards

Mauricio

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