[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] geography assistance: "Gruec"?

[Richard Stein]

Further to Michael's information, the SGGEE Parish Records Index lists 169 
Schiller names, many from Grodziec.

Dick Stein

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Stockhausen" <michael.stockhausen.ff at web.de>
To: "Craig Schiller" <craigbear at gmail.com>; 
<ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] geography assistance: "Gruec"?


Craig,
Borowiec and Grodziec go together perfectly well.
Borowiec is just about 2 miles S/SW of Grodziec. Borowiec was inhabited by
German settlers from the Neutomischel area, and Grodziec had a Lutheran
church.
I have Müller and Kurtz ancestors from Borowiec, and I found their records
(in the mid 1800s) in Grodziec Lutheran (unfortunately, there are many
gaps).
If you look here
http://genea2011.net/index.php?option=com_grid&gid=8&p=537
you will see that the name Schiller actually did exist in Borowiec and the
neighboring village Orlina Wielka.

How to proceed? You can either order and view the microfilms
https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fcatalog-search-api%3A8080%2Fwww-catalogapi-webservice%2Fitem%2F432800
(but only until 1884)
or ask the State Archive in Konin
http://baza.archiwa.gov.pl/sezam/pradziad.php?l=en&mode=showopis&id=33948&miejscowosc=grodziec
e-mail: konin at poznan.ap.gov.pl
to send you copies of the records you are interested in.

Michael Stockhausen


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- 
From: Craig Schiller
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 11:40 PM
To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] geography assistance: "Gruec"?

A bit of followup: after I posted my Gruec question this morning, a
relative of mine sent me some documents I didn't previously have, and
they change things considerably. My great-grandfather's Canadian
naturalization certificate does indeed list his birthplace as "Gruec",
but that would obviously have been typed up by a Canadian office clerk
-- so thanks to George for the "greetings" theory, because in light of
what I'm about to add, that suddenly feels extremely plausible after
all.

I was also provided with a copy of his confirmation certificate. It
has a birthplace on it. That birthplace does not say "Gruec" or
anything even close to it. I can't entirely make out exactly what it
does say (scanned copy of a photocopy of a photocopy of a 19th-century
document, you know the score), but what it does look like as far as I
can tell is "Borowitz something something" (the second something could
certainly be Kalisz, but I can't make heads or tails of the first
something.) And the document is annotated at the bottom as having been
filed in Rozhische, so wherever he was actually born they were clearly
living in the Lutsk area by the time my great-grandfather was a
teenager.

So instead of "Gruec", does the place name Borowitz (or something
similar to it) make sense to anyone in relation to Kalisz -- or in
relation to the Kalusz that's much closer to Lviv and Rozhische?

In the meantime, I'm going to sit here and wonder why nobody else ever
noticed this before.
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