[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Westfalen migration (was: Re: Nosowiecze)

[Christopher Menke]

Sorry - Here again with the link...
 
http://www.posen-l.com/pos/GPJ.html
 


 
 
 


> From: info at werkzeuch.de
> To: chrismenke at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Westfalen migration (was: Re: Nosowiecze)
> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:44:08 +0200
> 
> Hallo Christopher, ich suche seit Jahren die ürsprüngliche Herkunft meiner 
> Vorfahren aus dem Dobriner Land (unterhalb Westpreussen). Die ersten sollen 
> dort ca. 1700 eingewandert sein und vorwiegend aus den angrenzenden Gebieten 
> von West- und Ostpreussen gekommen sein. Meinen Familiennamen, der ja nicht 
> so häufig ist, habe ich aber zu der Zeit auch im Rheinland gefunden. Weiter 
> war der Name verbreitet in Posen und Schlesien. Das könnte für die 
> Wanderbewegung von West nach Ost sprechen.
> Nun schreibst du, dass du etwas gelesen hast über Siedler die Mitte des 
> 17.Jh. nach Polen ausgewandert sein sollen. Kannst du mir sagen wo du das 
> gelesen hast. Ich würde vermuten, dass es in den Staatsarchiven der Länder 
> Informationen zu Auswanderern gibt. Preussen hat schon früh Siedler aus 
> anderen deutschen Staaten angeworben.
> Das dies Mitte des 17Jh. stattgefunden haben soll ist mir neu.
> Freundliche Grüße aus Mecklenburg, Norbert Leide
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Christopher Menke" <chrismenke at hotmail.com>
> To: <pnswork at aol.com>; <dhiller1 at gmx.de>; <heinrichrichter1 at aol.com>
> Cc: "SGGEE List" <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 2:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Westfalen migration (was: Re: Nosowiecze)
> 
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> >
> > Any comments on this....
> >
> > Is it POSSIBLE some of the Germans from Poland / Prussia / Volhynia went 
> > to Westfalen, Schleswig-Holstein and Lower Saxony because it was viewed as 
> > the old, yes way back, ancestral homeland, and therefore a place where 
> > they would feel they "fit in" as opposed to say Bavaria? I have read that 
> > many of the Germans in West Prussia / Poland came from those regions in 
> > the mid-1600's. Those areas were all under Prussia for a time also. Many 
> > of the -KE surnames seem to originate in that area also.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Chris Menke
> >
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> > From: PnSWork at aol.com
> > Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 20:01:53 -0400
> > Subject: Westfalen migration (was: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Nosowiecze)
> > To: chrismenke at hotmail.com; dhiller1 at gmx.de; heinrichrichter1 at aol.com
> > CC: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The Ruhr industrial area was completely rebuilt after the war, so they 
> > had a lot of jobs to offer, and many people moved there as a result. My 
> > own relatives from the Plock region initially settled in Schleswig 
> > Holstein, but most of them quickly moved to Essen because that's where the 
> > jobs were.
> >
> > -Paul
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 8/29/2012 6:30:21 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
> > chrismenke at hotmail.com writes:
> >
> > I have been finding in my research that a LOT of the eastern Germans who 
> > did not go to the Americas following the World Wars went to 
> > Nordhein-Westfalen. I have numerous examples.
> > Chris Menke
> >
> >
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> >
> >> From: dhiller1 at gmx.de
> >> To: heinrichrichter1 at aol.com
> >> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:16:28 +0200
> >> CC: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] *** GMX Spamverdacht *** Nosowiecze
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Westfalen is an area in Western Germany, Westphalia, see e.g. here:
> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westphalia
> >> > Herford is a not so big town there, see e.g. google maps:
> >> > http://maps.google.com/maps?q=herford
> >> > Number 14 could stand for the postal code, which was pretty short
> >> > once. However, maybe it was the house number, but then the name of the
> >> > street is missing. So I doubt it is.
> >> >
> >> > Dietmar
> >> >
> >> > Am Mittwoch, den 29.08.2012, 13:59 -0400 schrieb
> >> > heinrichrichter1 at aol.com:
> >> >
> >> > > Hello list Members:
> >> > > An old photo of a farm in our family photo collection has the name 
> >> > > Nosowiecze 1931 written on the back. Also on the back, but in very 
> >> > > different ink and handwriting is: Pauline Betker, Westfalen, Nr. 14, 
> >> > > Westfalen, Kreis Herford. My mother and father lived in Nosowiecze at 
> >> > > this time and until 1940 when they resettled to western Poland. My 
> >> > > two older brothers were born in Nosowiecze and although my mother's 
> >> > > maiden name was Betker I have been unable to make a connection with 
> >> > > Pauline Betker in our family history. Although the information 
> >> > > following Pauline Betker appears to be an address, I have had no luck 
> >> > > finding such an address in Germany. Any suggestions would be 
> >> > > appreciated.
> >> > > Heinrich Richter
> >> > >
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