[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road block-Schaffer, Karacha
Helen Gillespie
hgillespie at rogers.com
Fri May 21 17:13:49 PDT 2010
There is a website called Our Roots - www.ourroots.ca which has digitized many local histories across Canada.
One is entitled Maple Creek & area: where the past is present It is in 2 volumes and there are several generations of Schaefers listed on page 979 to 986- http://www.ourroots.ca/page.aspx?id=4201797&qryID=aa24a626-04be-4b4d-b970-f2c31c2d1e6d
They may very well be related to your Carl Schaffer. You will note that the family names have changed over time as well.
For other folks searching particular areas - log on to the site and search for the village or region or town. You may be lucky to get a local history. Many were written for Centennial year 1967, but also for the centennials of the provinces - 1905, 1870...
Good luck.
Helen
--- On Fri, 5/21/10, Marnie Mccall <mlmccall at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> From: Marnie Mccall <mlmccall at sympatico.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road block-Schaffer, Karacha
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Date: Friday, May 21, 2010, 2:25 AM
>
> Hi Rosella,
> The 1916 Western Canada Census has been indexed on
> Ancestry: http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=1556
> Carl Schaffer, born 1886, and Christena Schaffer, born
> 1889, are listed in the Maple Creek district of
> Saskatchewan. To get the additional information
> requires a subscription or a visit to a LDS Family History
> Centre or public library with a subscription. There
> may not be a lot of additional information on the census
> form, but it should enable you to get an address, which
> would allow you to search other records.
> Marnie McCall
> G/Krueger and Hochwuhler families
>
> > From: ger-poland-volhynia-request at eclipse.sggee.org
> > Subject: Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 84, Issue 19
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 15:51:57 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Cathy Walters <walters.cathy at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] My Family(Karen
> Dorset)
> > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > Message-ID: <58100.99128.qm at web57402.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
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> >
> > Hi Karen, on one of my searches on internet I did
> "Jesse"Germany ,genealogy-all I can say what timming ! At
> cousin connect 2003 someone was asking how Jesse/Maske of
> Mayville,WI dodge Co.,Robert Maske married c.1858 Anna
> Jesse, relate to Jesse/Fellwock of Illinois of Washington Co
> & Wilberton twp Fayette Co.? William Fellwok m.
> Wilhelmine Jesse,Anna Rosina Jesse was living w/ Fellock
> family 1870 as house keeper,also Michael Fellock was living
> in home.They also had Schrieber but they never said anything
> about them -so I don't know where that connects. As you can
> see I am looking for Jesse's,like a dough-dough brain I
> never wrote who was asking. Cathy in Elgin,MN
> >
> > ? ALWAYS A ROSE
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 23:35:04 -0500
> > From: Gary Tober <getober at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ger-Poland-Volhynia
> Digest, Vol 84,
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> >
> > As I understand, starting in 1906, women had to apply
> separately for U.S. citizenship. The best source of info is
> the Declaration of Intention. The Naturalization Certificate
> contains very little info.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gary Tober
> >
> > > From: ger-poland-volhynia-request at eclipse.sggee.org
> > > Subject: Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 84,
> Issue 18
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> > > 1. hitting a road block (Rosella Mandau)
> > > 2. Re: hitting a road block (Hannes Werner)
> > > 3. Re: hitting a road block (Gary Warner)
> > > 4. Re: hitting a road block (Rose Ingram)
> > > 5. Re: My Family (Karen Dorsett) (Marina und
> Henning Bettich)
> > >
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> > > Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 08:07:05 -0600
> > > From: Rosella Mandau <rosella.mandau at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road
> block
> > > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > > Message-ID:
> > > <AANLkTimmp0mt-dChYXbXayV9-jZSRN-F_haIJIEScRc8 at mail.gmail.com>
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> > >
> > > Can you please suggest alternative spellings for
> the surname Karacha.
> > >
> > > We are looking for Carl and Christena Schaffer
> (nee Karacha) who came from
> > > Russia to Saskatchewan in 1913. Her surname does
> not appear in any archives
> > > that we've searched. We believe she had 2 sisters
> - Kate and Catherine who
> > > also left Russia and settled in North or South
> Dakota. We have found Carl's
> > > brother Martin on a ship manifest - the Andania,
> in 1913... but cannot
> > > locate the manifest for Carl, Christena and their
> children. There is no
> > > mention of thier exact origin in Russia on any of
> the documents we have
> > > found.
> > >
> > > We are hoping to identify where in Russia them
> came from, and to collect
> > > more of Christena's family history. She and Carl
> were both born sometime in
> > > the late 1880's.
> > >
> > > Thank you for any help you can offer.
> > > Rosella Mandau
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:22:15 +0200
> > > From: "Hannes Werner" <Hannes.Werner at online.de>
> > > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road
> block
> > > To: "Rosella Mandau" <rosella.mandau at gmail.com>,
> > > <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> > > Message-ID:
> <000e01caf767$10c887b0$14b2a8c0 at end2000>
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> charset="iso-8859-1";
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> > >
> > > Hello Rosella,
> > >
> > > two versions:
> > >
> > > 1. Karcher; depending on pronounciation and with
> "rolling 'r'" it sounds
> > > like karacha
> > > 2. Karrasch, also: Karras ; there's a
> Karras-Schielke connection in Volynia
> > >
> > > Hannes
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Rosella Mandau" <rosella.mandau at gmail.com>
> > > To: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:07 PM
> > > Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [Ger-Poland-Volhynia]
> hitting a road block
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 09:11:25 -0700
> > > From: Gary Warner <gary at warnerengineering.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road
> block
> > > To: Rosella Mandau <rosella.mandau at gmail.com>
> > > Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > > Message-ID: <4BF40DAD.3040005 at warnerengineering.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1;
> format=flowed
> > >
> > > Rosella,
> > >
> > > I am not sure if we can help, but if we can, it
> will be only if you can
> > > give us some more data. If you do not know the
> exact answers to the
> > > questions below, then give approximate answers.
> > >
> > > 1. Who were Christena's parents?
> > >
> > > 2. When was Christena born?
> > >
> > > 3. When were Christena's siblings born?
> > >
> > > 4. Are you sure that Kate and Catherine were
> different siblings?
> > > Both are the same name root.
> > >
> > > 5. Do you know if Christena had any brothers or
> uncles who came to
> > > Canada or the USA? If so, what were there names
> and years of birth?
> > > I am not sure if females in the early 1900s got
> naturalized separately
> > > form their husbands. If they did, then a petition
> for naturalization
> > > would give the correct spelling of her surname,
> and the names of her
> > > parents, and where she was born.
> > >
> > > One thing you need to keep in mind is if you
> cannot find data on your
> > > direct ancestors, then sometimes you can break
> down the walls if you
> > > find out more about the siblings.
> > >
> > > Gary Warner
> > >
> > > On 5/19/2010 7:07 AM, Rosella Mandau wrote:
> > > > Can you please suggest alternative spellings
> for the surname Karacha.
> > > >
> > > > We are looking for Carl and Christena
> Schaffer (nee Karacha) who came from
> > > > Russia to Saskatchewan in 1913. Her surname
> does not appear in any archives
> > > > that we've searched. We believe she had 2
> sisters - Kate and Catherine who
> > > > also left Russia and settled in North or
> South Dakota. We have found Carl's
> > > > brother Martin on a ship manifest - the
> Andania, in 1913... but cannot
> > > > locate the manifest for Carl, Christena and
> their children. There is no
> > > > mention of thier exact origin in Russia on
> any of the documents we have
> > > > found.
> > > >
> > > > We are hoping to identify where in Russia
> them came from, and to collect
> > > > more of Christena's family history. She and
> Carl were both born sometime in
> > > > the late 1880's.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for any help you can offer.
> > > > Rosella Mandau
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 4
> > > Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 09:32:55 -0700
> > > From: "Rose Ingram" <roseingram at shaw.ca>
> > > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road
> block
> > > To: "Rosella Mandau" <rosella.mandau at gmail.com>,
> > > <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> > > Message-ID:
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> > >
> > > What about Karasch or Karras or Karass.
> > >
> > > Rose Ingram
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Rosella Mandau
> > > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 7:07 AM
> > > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road
> block
> > >
> > >
> > > Can you please suggest alternative spellings for
> the surname Karacha.
> > >
> > > We are looking for Carl and Christena Schaffer
> (nee Karacha) who came from
> > > Russia to Saskatchewan in 1913. Her surname does
> not appear in any archives
> > > that we've searched. We believe she had 2 sisters
> - Kate and Catherine who
> > > also left Russia and settled in North or South
> Dakota. We have found Carl's
> > > brother Martin on a ship manifest - the Andania,
> in 1913... but cannot
> > > locate the manifest for Carl, Christena and their
> children. There is no
> > > mention of thier exact origin in Russia on any of
> the documents we have
> > > found.
> > >
> > > We are hoping to identify where in Russia them
> came from, and to collect
> > > more of Christena's family history. She and Carl
> were both born sometime in
> > > the late 1880's.
> > >
> > > Thank you for any help you can offer.
> > > Rosella Mandau
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 5
> > > Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 20:16:08 +0200
> > > From: "Marina und Henning Bettich" <henning.bettich at osnanet.de>
> > > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] My Family
> (Karen Dorsett)
> > > To: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> > > Message-ID:
> <000601caf77f$5adbec30$1093c490$@bettich at osnanet.de>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > >
> > > Hello Karen,
> > >
> > > i had one Filwock in my family tree, his name is
> Gustav Filwock, he was born
> > > on 16. Dez 1922 in Kurgane in Russia and he died
> on 18, Mar 1994 in
> > > Gro?-Gerau in germany.
> > > He married Olga born Bettich. Olga was born on 23
> Mar 1922 in Novyi
> > > Berestovets in the Ukraine.
> > > Hope you can use this information at any further
> time. If you know yet any
> > > relationship to your family please inform me.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org
> > > [mailto:ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org]
> Im Auftrag von
> > > ger-poland-volhynia-request at eclipse.sggee.org
> > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Mai 2010 21:00
> > > An: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > > Betreff: Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 84,
> Issue 17
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> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 21:33:55 +1000
> > > From: Karen Dorsett <karen.dorsett9 at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] My Family
> > > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > > Message-ID:
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> > > I am trying to find my Grandfather's family links
> . I believe from the
> > > Gnadenthal area Volhynia. The surname is Filwok
> (other spellings may be
> > > noted Filvok, Fillwack , Fillwok etc even
> Vielwalk) My Greandfathers
> > > brother was Frederich and Sister was Eda. Eda
> apparently married a Dahlke
> > > Thank you for any information.
> > > Karen Dorsett (Filwok)
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 18:04:12 +0200
> > > From: G?nther B?hm <GHBoehm at ish.de>
> > > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] My Family
> > > To: Wolhynien-Liste <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> > > Message-ID: <4BF2BA7C.90608 at ish.de>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1;
> format=flowed
> > >
> > > Karen Dorsett schrieb:
> > > > I am trying to find my Grandfather's family
> links . I believe from the
> > > > Gnadenthal area Volhynia. The surname is
> Filwok (other spellings may be
> > > > noted Filvok, Fillwack , Fillwok etc even
> Vielwalk) My Greandfathers
> > > > brother was Frederich and Sister was Eda.
> Eda apparently married a Dahlke
> > > > Thank you for any information.
> > > > Karen Dorsett (Filwok)
> > >
> > > Hello Karen,
> > > supposedly FIELWOK, FIELWOCK or VIELWOCK. The
> Odessa Digital Library has
> > > some of them in Elisabethine, the IGI the
> marriage of Johann Gottlob
> > > VIELWOCK in 1793, Zduny, Krotoschin, Posen
> province. The origin seems to
> > > be in late Pomerania.
> > >
> > > G?nther
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:33:23 -0700
> > > From: Gary Warner <gary at warnerengineering.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] My Family
> > > To: Karen Dorsett <karen.dorsett9 at gmail.com>
> > > Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > > Message-ID: <4BF2C153.90605 at warnerengineering.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1;
> format=flowed
> > >
> > > Karen,
> > >
> > > You might also want to consider the spellings
> Villwock, Villwok,
> > > Villwoch, Fielwok, Vielwok, Vuellwock, Voellwock,
> Fuellwock, Fullwock, etc..
> > >
> > > Can you give more information, specifically the
> names and dates and
> > > places that you know of people in Volhynia that
> you seek?
> > >
> > > Gary Warner
> > >
> > > On 5/18/2010 4:33 AM, Karen Dorsett wrote:
> > > > I am trying to find my Grandfather's family
> links . I believe from the
> > > > Gnadenthal area Volhynia. The surname is
> Filwok (other spellings may be
> > > > noted Filvok, Fillwack , Fillwok etc even
> Vielwalk) My Greandfathers
> > > > brother was Frederich and Sister was Eda.
> Eda apparently married a Dahlke
> > > > Thank you for any information.
> > > > Karen Dorsett (Filwok)
> > > >
> > > >
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 07:57:01 -0700
> > From: "Eleanor" <ehaas3 at cox.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ger-Poland-Volhynia
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> > To: "Gary Tober" <getober at hotmail.com>,
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> > My grandmother and a friend came to America in 1906 -
> to the Minnesota/North
> > Dakota area. Grandma never applied for
> citizenship, and later married and
> > many years later divorced. She wrote to the
> Naturalization dept prior to
> > the divorce and remarriage to make sure she wouldn't
> be sent back to her
> > home country. They sent a letter saying that
> when she married she
> > automatically became a citizen of the U.S.
> >
> > Eleanor Haas
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gary Tober" <getober at hotmail.com>
> > To: "ger-pol-volhynia list" <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ger-Poland-Volhynia
> Digest, Vol 84,Issue
> > 18
> >
> >
> > >
> > > As I understand, starting in 1906, women had to
> apply separately for U.S.
> > > citizenship. The best source of info is the
> Declaration of Intention. The
> > > Naturalization Certificate contains very little
> info.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Gary Tober
> > >
> > >> From: ger-poland-volhynia-request at eclipse.sggee.org
> > >> Subject: Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 84,
> Issue 18
> > >> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > >> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:00:03 -0700
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> > >> Today's Topics:
> > >>
> > >> 1. hitting a road block (Rosella Mandau)
> > >> 2. Re: hitting a road block (Hannes Werner)
> > >> 3. Re: hitting a road block (Gary Warner)
> > >> 4. Re: hitting a road block (Rose Ingram)
> > >> 5. Re: My Family (Karen Dorsett) (Marina und
> Henning Bettich)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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> > >>
> > >> Message: 1
> > >> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 08:07:05 -0600
> > >> From: Rosella Mandau <rosella.mandau at gmail.com>
> > >> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road
> block
> > >> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > >> Message-ID:
> > >> <AANLkTimmp0mt-dChYXbXayV9-jZSRN-F_haIJIEScRc8 at mail.gmail.com>
> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > >>
> > >> Can you please suggest alternative spellings
> for the surname Karacha.
> > >>
> > >> We are looking for Carl and Christena
> Schaffer (nee Karacha) who came
> > >> from
> > >> Russia to Saskatchewan in 1913. Her surname
> does not appear in any
> > >> archives
> > >> that we've searched. We believe she had 2
> sisters - Kate and Catherine
> > >> who
> > >> also left Russia and settled in North or
> South Dakota. We have found
> > >> Carl's
> > >> brother Martin on a ship manifest - the
> Andania, in 1913... but cannot
> > >> locate the manifest for Carl, Christena and
> their children. There is no
> > >> mention of thier exact origin in Russia on
> any of the documents we have
> > >> found.
> > >>
> > >> We are hoping to identify where in Russia
> them came from, and to collect
> > >> more of Christena's family history. She and
> Carl were both born sometime
> > >> in
> > >> the late 1880's.
> > >>
> > >> Thank you for any help you can offer.
> > >> Rosella Mandau
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Message: 2
> > >> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:22:15 +0200
> > >> From: "Hannes Werner" <Hannes.Werner at online.de>
> > >> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a
> road block
> > >> To: "Rosella Mandau" <rosella.mandau at gmail.com>,
> > >> <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> > >> Message-ID:
> <000e01caf767$10c887b0$14b2a8c0 at end2000>
> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed;
> charset="iso-8859-1";
> > >> reply-type=original
> > >>
> > >> Hello Rosella,
> > >>
> > >> two versions:
> > >>
> > >> 1. Karcher; depending on pronounciation and
> with "rolling 'r'" it sounds
> > >> like karacha
> > >> 2. Karrasch, also: Karras ; there's a
> Karras-Schielke connection in
> > >> Volynia
> > >>
> > >> Hannes
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Rosella Mandau" <rosella.mandau at gmail.com>
> > >> To: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:07 PM
> > >> Subject: [Norton AntiSpam]
> [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road block
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Message: 3
> > >> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 09:11:25 -0700
> > >> From: Gary Warner <gary at warnerengineering.com>
> > >> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a
> road block
> > >> To: Rosella Mandau <rosella.mandau at gmail.com>
> > >> Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > >> Message-ID: <4BF40DAD.3040005 at warnerengineering.com>
> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1;
> format=flowed
> > >>
> > >> Rosella,
> > >>
> > >> I am not sure if we can help, but if we can,
> it will be only if you can
> > >> give us some more data. If you do not know
> the exact answers to the
> > >> questions below, then give approximate
> answers.
> > >>
> > >> 1. Who were Christena's parents?
> > >>
> > >> 2. When was Christena born?
> > >>
> > >> 3. When were Christena's siblings born?
> > >>
> > >> 4. Are you sure that Kate and Catherine were
> different siblings?
> > >> Both are the same name root.
> > >>
> > >> 5. Do you know if Christena had any brothers
> or uncles who came to
> > >> Canada or the USA? If so, what were there
> names and years of birth?
> > >> I am not sure if females in the early 1900s
> got naturalized separately
> > >> form their husbands. If they did, then a
> petition for naturalization
> > >> would give the correct spelling of her
> surname, and the names of her
> > >> parents, and where she was born.
> > >>
> > >> One thing you need to keep in mind is if you
> cannot find data on your
> > >> direct ancestors, then sometimes you can
> break down the walls if you
> > >> find out more about the siblings.
> > >>
> > >> Gary Warner
> > >>
> > >> On 5/19/2010 7:07 AM, Rosella Mandau wrote:
> > >> > Can you please suggest alternative
> spellings for the surname Karacha.
> > >> >
> > >> > We are looking for Carl and Christena
> Schaffer (nee Karacha) who came
> > >> > from
> > >> > Russia to Saskatchewan in 1913. Her
> surname does not appear in any
> > >> > archives
> > >> > that we've searched. We believe she had
> 2 sisters - Kate and Catherine
> > >> > who
> > >> > also left Russia and settled in North or
> South Dakota. We have found
> > >> > Carl's
> > >> > brother Martin on a ship manifest - the
> Andania, in 1913... but cannot
> > >> > locate the manifest for Carl, Christena
> and their children. There is no
> > >> > mention of thier exact origin in Russia
> on any of the documents we have
> > >> > found.
> > >> >
> > >> > We are hoping to identify where in
> Russia them came from, and to
> > >> > collect
> > >> > more of Christena's family history. She
> and Carl were both born
> > >> > sometime in
> > >> > the late 1880's.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thank you for any help you can offer.
> > >> > Rosella Mandau
> > >> >
> > >> >
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> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Message: 4
> > >> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 09:32:55 -0700
> > >> From: "Rose Ingram" <roseingram at shaw.ca>
> > >> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a
> road block
> > >> To: "Rosella Mandau" <rosella.mandau at gmail.com>,
> > >> <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> > >> Message-ID:
> <003801caf770$ef8921e0$6501a8c0 at duocore>
> > >> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> > >>
> > >> What about Karasch or Karras or Karass.
> > >>
> > >> Rose Ingram
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: Rosella Mandau
> > >> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 7:07 AM
> > >> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road
> block
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Can you please suggest alternative spellings
> for the surname Karacha.
> > >>
> > >> We are looking for Carl and Christena
> Schaffer (nee Karacha) who came
> > >> from
> > >> Russia to Saskatchewan in 1913. Her surname
> does not appear in any
> > >> archives
> > >> that we've searched. We believe she had 2
> sisters - Kate and Catherine
> > >> who
> > >> also left Russia and settled in North or
> South Dakota. We have found
> > >> Carl's
> > >> brother Martin on a ship manifest - the
> Andania, in 1913... but cannot
> > >> locate the manifest for Carl, Christena and
> their children. There is no
> > >> mention of thier exact origin in Russia on
> any of the documents we have
> > >> found.
> > >>
> > >> We are hoping to identify where in Russia
> them came from, and to collect
> > >> more of Christena's family history. She and
> Carl were both born sometime
> > >> in
> > >> the late 1880's.
> > >>
> > >> Thank you for any help you can offer.
> > >> Rosella Mandau
> > >>
> > >>
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> > >> ------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Message: 5
> > >> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 20:16:08 +0200
> > >> From: "Marina und Henning Bettich" <henning.bettich at osnanet.de>
> > >> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] My Family
> (Karen Dorsett)
> > >> To: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> > >> Message-ID:
> <000601caf77f$5adbec30$1093c490$@bettich at osnanet.de>
> > >> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> > >>
> > >> Hello Karen,
> > >>
> > >> i had one Filwock in my family tree, his name
> is Gustav Filwock, he was
> > >> born
> > >> on 16. Dez 1922 in Kurgane in Russia and he
> died on 18, Mar 1994 in
> > >> Gro?-Gerau in germany.
> > >> He married Olga born Bettich. Olga was born
> on 23 Mar 1922 in Novyi
> > >> Berestovets in the Ukraine.
> > >> Hope you can use this information at any
> further time. If you know yet
> > >> any
> > >> relationship to your family please inform
> me.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> > >> Von: ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org
> > >> [mailto:ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org]
> Im Auftrag von
> > >> ger-poland-volhynia-request at eclipse.sggee.org
> > >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Mai 2010 21:00
> > >> An: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > >> Betreff: Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 84,
> Issue 17
> > >>
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> > >> Today's Topics:
> > >>
> > >> 1. My Family (Karen Dorsett)
> > >> 2. Re: My Family (G?nther B?hm)
> > >> 3. Re: My Family (Gary Warner)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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> > >> Message: 1
> > >> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 21:33:55 +1000
> > >> From: Karen Dorsett <karen.dorsett9 at gmail.com>
> > >> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] My Family
> > >> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > >> Message-ID:
> > >> <AANLkTikecSBWLuR4OWEov3WJExBk5rzhakMrH8pOVQNb at mail.gmail.com>
> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > >>
> > >> I am trying to find my Grandfather's family
> links . I believe from the
> > >> Gnadenthal area Volhynia. The surname is
> Filwok (other spellings may be
> > >> noted Filvok, Fillwack , Fillwok etc even
> Vielwalk) My Greandfathers
> > >> brother was Frederich and Sister was Eda. Eda
> apparently married a Dahlke
> > >> Thank you for any information.
> > >> Karen Dorsett (Filwok)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Message: 2
> > >> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 18:04:12 +0200
> > >> From: G?nther B?hm <GHBoehm at ish.de>
> > >> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] My Family
> > >> To: Wolhynien-Liste <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> > >> Message-ID: <4BF2BA7C.90608 at ish.de>
> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1;
> format=flowed
> > >>
> > >> Karen Dorsett schrieb:
> > >> > I am trying to find my Grandfather's
> family links . I believe from the
> > >> > Gnadenthal area Volhynia. The surname is
> Filwok (other spellings may be
> > >> > noted Filvok, Fillwack , Fillwok etc
> even Vielwalk) My Greandfathers
> > >> > brother was Frederich and Sister was
> Eda. Eda apparently married a
> > >> > Dahlke
> > >> > Thank you for any information.
> > >> > Karen Dorsett (Filwok)
> > >>
> > >> Hello Karen,
> > >> supposedly FIELWOK, FIELWOCK or VIELWOCK. The
> Odessa Digital Library has
> > >> some of them in Elisabethine, the IGI the
> marriage of Johann Gottlob
> > >> VIELWOCK in 1793, Zduny, Krotoschin, Posen
> province. The origin seems to
> > >> be in late Pomerania.
> > >>
> > >> G?nther
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Message: 3
> > >> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:33:23 -0700
> > >> From: Gary Warner <gary at warnerengineering.com>
> > >> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] My Family
> > >> To: Karen Dorsett <karen.dorsett9 at gmail.com>
> > >> Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > >> Message-ID: <4BF2C153.90605 at warnerengineering.com>
> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1;
> format=flowed
> > >>
> > >> Karen,
> > >>
> > >> You might also want to consider the spellings
> Villwock, Villwok,
> > >> Villwoch, Fielwok, Vielwok, Vuellwock,
> Voellwock, Fuellwock, Fullwock,
> > >> etc..
> > >>
> > >> Can you give more information, specifically
> the names and dates and
> > >> places that you know of people in Volhynia
> that you seek?
> > >>
> > >> Gary Warner
> > >>
> > >> On 5/18/2010 4:33 AM, Karen Dorsett wrote:
> > >> > I am trying to find my Grandfather's
> family links . I believe from the
> > >> > Gnadenthal area Volhynia. The surname is
> Filwok (other spellings may be
> > >> > noted Filvok, Fillwack , Fillwok etc
> even Vielwalk) My Greandfathers
> > >> > brother was Frederich and Sister was
> Eda. Eda apparently married a
> > >> > Dahlke
> > >> > Thank you for any information.
> > >> > Karen Dorsett (Filwok)
> > >> >
> > >> >
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