[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road block-Schaffer, Karacha
Marnie Mccall
mlmccall at sympatico.ca
Thu May 20 19:25:39 PDT 2010
Hi Rosella,
The 1916 Western Canada Census has been indexed on Ancestry: http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=1556
Carl Schaffer, born 1886, and Christena Schaffer, born 1889, are listed in the Maple Creek district of Saskatchewan. To get the additional information requires a subscription or a visit to a LDS Family History Centre or public library with a subscription. There may not be a lot of additional information on the census form, but it should enable you to get an address, which would allow you to search other records.
Marnie McCall
G/Krueger and Hochwuhler families
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 15:51:57 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Cathy Walters <walters.cathy at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] My Family(Karen Dorset)
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> Hi Karen, on one of my searches on internet I did "Jesse"Germany ,genealogy-all I can say what timming ! At cousin connect 2003 someone was asking how Jesse/Maske of Mayville,WI dodge Co.,Robert Maske married c.1858 Anna Jesse, relate to Jesse/Fellwock of Illinois of Washington Co & Wilberton twp Fayette Co.? William Fellwok m. Wilhelmine Jesse,Anna Rosina Jesse was living w/ Fellock family 1870 as house keeper,also Michael Fellock was living in home.They also had Schrieber but they never said anything about them -so I don't know where that connects. As you can see I am looking for Jesse's,like a dough-dough brain I never wrote who was asking. Cathy in Elgin,MN
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> ? ALWAYS A ROSE
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 23:35:04 -0500
> From: Gary Tober <getober at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 84,
> Issue 18
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> As I understand, starting in 1906, women had to apply separately for U.S. citizenship. The best source of info is the Declaration of Intention. The Naturalization Certificate contains very little info.
>
>
>
> Gary Tober
>
> > From: ger-poland-volhynia-request at eclipse.sggee.org
> > Subject: Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 84, Issue 18
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> > 1. hitting a road block (Rosella Mandau)
> > 2. Re: hitting a road block (Hannes Werner)
> > 3. Re: hitting a road block (Gary Warner)
> > 4. Re: hitting a road block (Rose Ingram)
> > 5. Re: My Family (Karen Dorsett) (Marina und Henning Bettich)
> >
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 08:07:05 -0600
> > From: Rosella Mandau <rosella.mandau at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road block
> > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
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> > <AANLkTimmp0mt-dChYXbXayV9-jZSRN-F_haIJIEScRc8 at mail.gmail.com>
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> > Can you please suggest alternative spellings for the surname Karacha.
> >
> > We are looking for Carl and Christena Schaffer (nee Karacha) who came from
> > Russia to Saskatchewan in 1913. Her surname does not appear in any archives
> > that we've searched. We believe she had 2 sisters - Kate and Catherine who
> > also left Russia and settled in North or South Dakota. We have found Carl's
> > brother Martin on a ship manifest - the Andania, in 1913... but cannot
> > locate the manifest for Carl, Christena and their children. There is no
> > mention of thier exact origin in Russia on any of the documents we have
> > found.
> >
> > We are hoping to identify where in Russia them came from, and to collect
> > more of Christena's family history. She and Carl were both born sometime in
> > the late 1880's.
> >
> > Thank you for any help you can offer.
> > Rosella Mandau
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:22:15 +0200
> > From: "Hannes Werner" <Hannes.Werner at online.de>
> > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road block
> > To: "Rosella Mandau" <rosella.mandau at gmail.com>,
> > <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> > Message-ID: <000e01caf767$10c887b0$14b2a8c0 at end2000>
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> >
> > Hello Rosella,
> >
> > two versions:
> >
> > 1. Karcher; depending on pronounciation and with "rolling 'r'" it sounds
> > like karacha
> > 2. Karrasch, also: Karras ; there's a Karras-Schielke connection in Volynia
> >
> > Hannes
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rosella Mandau" <rosella.mandau at gmail.com>
> > To: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:07 PM
> > Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road block
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 09:11:25 -0700
> > From: Gary Warner <gary at warnerengineering.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road block
> > To: Rosella Mandau <rosella.mandau at gmail.com>
> > Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > Message-ID: <4BF40DAD.3040005 at warnerengineering.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> > Rosella,
> >
> > I am not sure if we can help, but if we can, it will be only if you can
> > give us some more data. If you do not know the exact answers to the
> > questions below, then give approximate answers.
> >
> > 1. Who were Christena's parents?
> >
> > 2. When was Christena born?
> >
> > 3. When were Christena's siblings born?
> >
> > 4. Are you sure that Kate and Catherine were different siblings?
> > Both are the same name root.
> >
> > 5. Do you know if Christena had any brothers or uncles who came to
> > Canada or the USA? If so, what were there names and years of birth?
> > I am not sure if females in the early 1900s got naturalized separately
> > form their husbands. If they did, then a petition for naturalization
> > would give the correct spelling of her surname, and the names of her
> > parents, and where she was born.
> >
> > One thing you need to keep in mind is if you cannot find data on your
> > direct ancestors, then sometimes you can break down the walls if you
> > find out more about the siblings.
> >
> > Gary Warner
> >
> > On 5/19/2010 7:07 AM, Rosella Mandau wrote:
> > > Can you please suggest alternative spellings for the surname Karacha.
> > >
> > > We are looking for Carl and Christena Schaffer (nee Karacha) who came from
> > > Russia to Saskatchewan in 1913. Her surname does not appear in any archives
> > > that we've searched. We believe she had 2 sisters - Kate and Catherine who
> > > also left Russia and settled in North or South Dakota. We have found Carl's
> > > brother Martin on a ship manifest - the Andania, in 1913... but cannot
> > > locate the manifest for Carl, Christena and their children. There is no
> > > mention of thier exact origin in Russia on any of the documents we have
> > > found.
> > >
> > > We are hoping to identify where in Russia them came from, and to collect
> > > more of Christena's family history. She and Carl were both born sometime in
> > > the late 1880's.
> > >
> > > Thank you for any help you can offer.
> > > Rosella Mandau
> > >
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 09:32:55 -0700
> > From: "Rose Ingram" <roseingram at shaw.ca>
> > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road block
> > To: "Rosella Mandau" <rosella.mandau at gmail.com>,
> > <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> > Message-ID: <003801caf770$ef8921e0$6501a8c0 at duocore>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > What about Karasch or Karras or Karass.
> >
> > Rose Ingram
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Rosella Mandau
> > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 7:07 AM
> > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road block
> >
> >
> > Can you please suggest alternative spellings for the surname Karacha.
> >
> > We are looking for Carl and Christena Schaffer (nee Karacha) who came from
> > Russia to Saskatchewan in 1913. Her surname does not appear in any archives
> > that we've searched. We believe she had 2 sisters - Kate and Catherine who
> > also left Russia and settled in North or South Dakota. We have found Carl's
> > brother Martin on a ship manifest - the Andania, in 1913... but cannot
> > locate the manifest for Carl, Christena and their children. There is no
> > mention of thier exact origin in Russia on any of the documents we have
> > found.
> >
> > We are hoping to identify where in Russia them came from, and to collect
> > more of Christena's family history. She and Carl were both born sometime in
> > the late 1880's.
> >
> > Thank you for any help you can offer.
> > Rosella Mandau
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 20:16:08 +0200
> > From: "Marina und Henning Bettich" <henning.bettich at osnanet.de>
> > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] My Family (Karen Dorsett)
> > To: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> > Message-ID: <000601caf77f$5adbec30$1093c490$@bettich at osnanet.de>
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> > Hello Karen,
> >
> > i had one Filwock in my family tree, his name is Gustav Filwock, he was born
> > on 16. Dez 1922 in Kurgane in Russia and he died on 18, Mar 1994 in
> > Gro?-Gerau in germany.
> > He married Olga born Bettich. Olga was born on 23 Mar 1922 in Novyi
> > Berestovets in the Ukraine.
> > Hope you can use this information at any further time. If you know yet any
> > relationship to your family please inform me.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
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> > ger-poland-volhynia-request at eclipse.sggee.org
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Mai 2010 21:00
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 21:33:55 +1000
> > From: Karen Dorsett <karen.dorsett9 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] My Family
> > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
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> > I am trying to find my Grandfather's family links . I believe from the
> > Gnadenthal area Volhynia. The surname is Filwok (other spellings may be
> > noted Filvok, Fillwack , Fillwok etc even Vielwalk) My Greandfathers
> > brother was Frederich and Sister was Eda. Eda apparently married a Dahlke
> > Thank you for any information.
> > Karen Dorsett (Filwok)
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 18:04:12 +0200
> > From: G?nther B?hm <GHBoehm at ish.de>
> > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] My Family
> > To: Wolhynien-Liste <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> > Message-ID: <4BF2BA7C.90608 at ish.de>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> > Karen Dorsett schrieb:
> > > I am trying to find my Grandfather's family links . I believe from the
> > > Gnadenthal area Volhynia. The surname is Filwok (other spellings may be
> > > noted Filvok, Fillwack , Fillwok etc even Vielwalk) My Greandfathers
> > > brother was Frederich and Sister was Eda. Eda apparently married a Dahlke
> > > Thank you for any information.
> > > Karen Dorsett (Filwok)
> >
> > Hello Karen,
> > supposedly FIELWOK, FIELWOCK or VIELWOCK. The Odessa Digital Library has
> > some of them in Elisabethine, the IGI the marriage of Johann Gottlob
> > VIELWOCK in 1793, Zduny, Krotoschin, Posen province. The origin seems to
> > be in late Pomerania.
> >
> > G?nther
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:33:23 -0700
> > From: Gary Warner <gary at warnerengineering.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] My Family
> > To: Karen Dorsett <karen.dorsett9 at gmail.com>
> > Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > Message-ID: <4BF2C153.90605 at warnerengineering.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> > Karen,
> >
> > You might also want to consider the spellings Villwock, Villwok,
> > Villwoch, Fielwok, Vielwok, Vuellwock, Voellwock, Fuellwock, Fullwock, etc..
> >
> > Can you give more information, specifically the names and dates and
> > places that you know of people in Volhynia that you seek?
> >
> > Gary Warner
> >
> > On 5/18/2010 4:33 AM, Karen Dorsett wrote:
> > > I am trying to find my Grandfather's family links . I believe from the
> > > Gnadenthal area Volhynia. The surname is Filwok (other spellings may be
> > > noted Filvok, Fillwack , Fillwok etc even Vielwalk) My Greandfathers
> > > brother was Frederich and Sister was Eda. Eda apparently married a Dahlke
> > > Thank you for any information.
> > > Karen Dorsett (Filwok)
> > >
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> Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 07:57:01 -0700
> From: "Eleanor" <ehaas3 at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 84,
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> To: "Gary Tober" <getober at hotmail.com>, "ger-pol-volhynia list"
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> My grandmother and a friend came to America in 1906 - to the Minnesota/North
> Dakota area. Grandma never applied for citizenship, and later married and
> many years later divorced. She wrote to the Naturalization dept prior to
> the divorce and remarriage to make sure she wouldn't be sent back to her
> home country. They sent a letter saying that when she married she
> automatically became a citizen of the U.S.
>
> Eleanor Haas
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Tober" <getober at hotmail.com>
> To: "ger-pol-volhynia list" <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 84,Issue
> 18
>
>
> >
> > As I understand, starting in 1906, women had to apply separately for U.S.
> > citizenship. The best source of info is the Declaration of Intention. The
> > Naturalization Certificate contains very little info.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gary Tober
> >
> >> From: ger-poland-volhynia-request at eclipse.sggee.org
> >> Subject: Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 84, Issue 18
> >> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> >> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:00:03 -0700
> >>
> >> Send Ger-Poland-Volhynia mailing list submissions to
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> >> than "Re: Contents of Ger-Poland-Volhynia digest..."
> >>
> >>
> >> Today's Topics:
> >>
> >> 1. hitting a road block (Rosella Mandau)
> >> 2. Re: hitting a road block (Hannes Werner)
> >> 3. Re: hitting a road block (Gary Warner)
> >> 4. Re: hitting a road block (Rose Ingram)
> >> 5. Re: My Family (Karen Dorsett) (Marina und Henning Bettich)
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 08:07:05 -0600
> >> From: Rosella Mandau <rosella.mandau at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road block
> >> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <AANLkTimmp0mt-dChYXbXayV9-jZSRN-F_haIJIEScRc8 at mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >>
> >> Can you please suggest alternative spellings for the surname Karacha.
> >>
> >> We are looking for Carl and Christena Schaffer (nee Karacha) who came
> >> from
> >> Russia to Saskatchewan in 1913. Her surname does not appear in any
> >> archives
> >> that we've searched. We believe she had 2 sisters - Kate and Catherine
> >> who
> >> also left Russia and settled in North or South Dakota. We have found
> >> Carl's
> >> brother Martin on a ship manifest - the Andania, in 1913... but cannot
> >> locate the manifest for Carl, Christena and their children. There is no
> >> mention of thier exact origin in Russia on any of the documents we have
> >> found.
> >>
> >> We are hoping to identify where in Russia them came from, and to collect
> >> more of Christena's family history. She and Carl were both born sometime
> >> in
> >> the late 1880's.
> >>
> >> Thank you for any help you can offer.
> >> Rosella Mandau
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:22:15 +0200
> >> From: "Hannes Werner" <Hannes.Werner at online.de>
> >> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road block
> >> To: "Rosella Mandau" <rosella.mandau at gmail.com>,
> >> <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> >> Message-ID: <000e01caf767$10c887b0$14b2a8c0 at end2000>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> >> reply-type=original
> >>
> >> Hello Rosella,
> >>
> >> two versions:
> >>
> >> 1. Karcher; depending on pronounciation and with "rolling 'r'" it sounds
> >> like karacha
> >> 2. Karrasch, also: Karras ; there's a Karras-Schielke connection in
> >> Volynia
> >>
> >> Hannes
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Rosella Mandau" <rosella.mandau at gmail.com>
> >> To: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:07 PM
> >> Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road block
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 09:11:25 -0700
> >> From: Gary Warner <gary at warnerengineering.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road block
> >> To: Rosella Mandau <rosella.mandau at gmail.com>
> >> Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> >> Message-ID: <4BF40DAD.3040005 at warnerengineering.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >>
> >> Rosella,
> >>
> >> I am not sure if we can help, but if we can, it will be only if you can
> >> give us some more data. If you do not know the exact answers to the
> >> questions below, then give approximate answers.
> >>
> >> 1. Who were Christena's parents?
> >>
> >> 2. When was Christena born?
> >>
> >> 3. When were Christena's siblings born?
> >>
> >> 4. Are you sure that Kate and Catherine were different siblings?
> >> Both are the same name root.
> >>
> >> 5. Do you know if Christena had any brothers or uncles who came to
> >> Canada or the USA? If so, what were there names and years of birth?
> >> I am not sure if females in the early 1900s got naturalized separately
> >> form their husbands. If they did, then a petition for naturalization
> >> would give the correct spelling of her surname, and the names of her
> >> parents, and where she was born.
> >>
> >> One thing you need to keep in mind is if you cannot find data on your
> >> direct ancestors, then sometimes you can break down the walls if you
> >> find out more about the siblings.
> >>
> >> Gary Warner
> >>
> >> On 5/19/2010 7:07 AM, Rosella Mandau wrote:
> >> > Can you please suggest alternative spellings for the surname Karacha.
> >> >
> >> > We are looking for Carl and Christena Schaffer (nee Karacha) who came
> >> > from
> >> > Russia to Saskatchewan in 1913. Her surname does not appear in any
> >> > archives
> >> > that we've searched. We believe she had 2 sisters - Kate and Catherine
> >> > who
> >> > also left Russia and settled in North or South Dakota. We have found
> >> > Carl's
> >> > brother Martin on a ship manifest - the Andania, in 1913... but cannot
> >> > locate the manifest for Carl, Christena and their children. There is no
> >> > mention of thier exact origin in Russia on any of the documents we have
> >> > found.
> >> >
> >> > We are hoping to identify where in Russia them came from, and to
> >> > collect
> >> > more of Christena's family history. She and Carl were both born
> >> > sometime in
> >> > the late 1880's.
> >> >
> >> > Thank you for any help you can offer.
> >> > Rosella Mandau
> >> >
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> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 4
> >> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 09:32:55 -0700
> >> From: "Rose Ingram" <roseingram at shaw.ca>
> >> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road block
> >> To: "Rosella Mandau" <rosella.mandau at gmail.com>,
> >> <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> >> Message-ID: <003801caf770$ef8921e0$6501a8c0 at duocore>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>
> >> What about Karasch or Karras or Karass.
> >>
> >> Rose Ingram
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Rosella Mandau
> >> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 7:07 AM
> >> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] hitting a road block
> >>
> >>
> >> Can you please suggest alternative spellings for the surname Karacha.
> >>
> >> We are looking for Carl and Christena Schaffer (nee Karacha) who came
> >> from
> >> Russia to Saskatchewan in 1913. Her surname does not appear in any
> >> archives
> >> that we've searched. We believe she had 2 sisters - Kate and Catherine
> >> who
> >> also left Russia and settled in North or South Dakota. We have found
> >> Carl's
> >> brother Martin on a ship manifest - the Andania, in 1913... but cannot
> >> locate the manifest for Carl, Christena and their children. There is no
> >> mention of thier exact origin in Russia on any of the documents we have
> >> found.
> >>
> >> We are hoping to identify where in Russia them came from, and to collect
> >> more of Christena's family history. She and Carl were both born sometime
> >> in
> >> the late 1880's.
> >>
> >> Thank you for any help you can offer.
> >> Rosella Mandau
> >>
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> >>
> >> Message: 5
> >> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 20:16:08 +0200
> >> From: "Marina und Henning Bettich" <henning.bettich at osnanet.de>
> >> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] My Family (Karen Dorsett)
> >> To: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> >> Message-ID: <000601caf77f$5adbec30$1093c490$@bettich at osnanet.de>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>
> >> Hello Karen,
> >>
> >> i had one Filwock in my family tree, his name is Gustav Filwock, he was
> >> born
> >> on 16. Dez 1922 in Kurgane in Russia and he died on 18, Mar 1994 in
> >> Gro?-Gerau in germany.
> >> He married Olga born Bettich. Olga was born on 23 Mar 1922 in Novyi
> >> Berestovets in the Ukraine.
> >> Hope you can use this information at any further time. If you know yet
> >> any
> >> relationship to your family please inform me.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Mai 2010 21:00
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> >> Betreff: Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 84, Issue 17
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> >> 1. My Family (Karen Dorsett)
> >> 2. Re: My Family (G?nther B?hm)
> >> 3. Re: My Family (Gary Warner)
> >>
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> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 21:33:55 +1000
> >> From: Karen Dorsett <karen.dorsett9 at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] My Family
> >> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <AANLkTikecSBWLuR4OWEov3WJExBk5rzhakMrH8pOVQNb at mail.gmail.com>
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> >>
> >> I am trying to find my Grandfather's family links . I believe from the
> >> Gnadenthal area Volhynia. The surname is Filwok (other spellings may be
> >> noted Filvok, Fillwack , Fillwok etc even Vielwalk) My Greandfathers
> >> brother was Frederich and Sister was Eda. Eda apparently married a Dahlke
> >> Thank you for any information.
> >> Karen Dorsett (Filwok)
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 18:04:12 +0200
> >> From: G?nther B?hm <GHBoehm at ish.de>
> >> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] My Family
> >> To: Wolhynien-Liste <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> >> Message-ID: <4BF2BA7C.90608 at ish.de>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >>
> >> Karen Dorsett schrieb:
> >> > I am trying to find my Grandfather's family links . I believe from the
> >> > Gnadenthal area Volhynia. The surname is Filwok (other spellings may be
> >> > noted Filvok, Fillwack , Fillwok etc even Vielwalk) My Greandfathers
> >> > brother was Frederich and Sister was Eda. Eda apparently married a
> >> > Dahlke
> >> > Thank you for any information.
> >> > Karen Dorsett (Filwok)
> >>
> >> Hello Karen,
> >> supposedly FIELWOK, FIELWOCK or VIELWOCK. The Odessa Digital Library has
> >> some of them in Elisabethine, the IGI the marriage of Johann Gottlob
> >> VIELWOCK in 1793, Zduny, Krotoschin, Posen province. The origin seems to
> >> be in late Pomerania.
> >>
> >> G?nther
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:33:23 -0700
> >> From: Gary Warner <gary at warnerengineering.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] My Family
> >> To: Karen Dorsett <karen.dorsett9 at gmail.com>
> >> Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> >> Message-ID: <4BF2C153.90605 at warnerengineering.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >>
> >> Karen,
> >>
> >> You might also want to consider the spellings Villwock, Villwok,
> >> Villwoch, Fielwok, Vielwok, Vuellwock, Voellwock, Fuellwock, Fullwock,
> >> etc..
> >>
> >> Can you give more information, specifically the names and dates and
> >> places that you know of people in Volhynia that you seek?
> >>
> >> Gary Warner
> >>
> >> On 5/18/2010 4:33 AM, Karen Dorsett wrote:
> >> > I am trying to find my Grandfather's family links . I believe from the
> >> > Gnadenthal area Volhynia. The surname is Filwok (other spellings may be
> >> > noted Filvok, Fillwack , Fillwok etc even Vielwalk) My Greandfathers
> >> > brother was Frederich and Sister was Eda. Eda apparently married a
> >> > Dahlke
> >> > Thank you for any information.
> >> > Karen Dorsett (Filwok)
> >> >
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