[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Location of Kasmirowka

marlo marlo50 at bex.net
Fri May 14 14:26:19 PDT 2010


Joe in Texas said sometimes it is difficult to discern exactly where the 
boundaries are with respect to present day Poland, Ukraine, Belarus and 
Russia.
Our search has found ancestors born in Rozyszce region, villages of
Elzbiecin and Dubszcze Stare or Nowe, just to the northeast,  I do not know 
where they are located today, I assume in the Ukraine but have never found 
them on a map.  Can you tell me where they are today?   Or if they ARE 
today?
Thank you.  Margaret


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "joepessarra" <joepessarra at suddenlink.net>
To: "'Jerry Frank'" <FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca>
Cc: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>; "'Gary Warner'" 
<gary at warnerengineering.com>
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Location of Kasmirowka


Jerry,



Thanks for the correction.



However, my first message on this question was in reference to the
possibilities of Kazimirovka locations in the Ukraine, Belarus and Russia
being the sought for Kasmirowka.  Russia would probably not fit, but the
other two might.  I did not check the latitudes and longitudes to see if
they would be located within the confines of Volhynia.



There are many maps of Volhynia, but sometimes it is difficult to discern
exactly where the boundaries are with respect to present day Poland,
Ukraine, Belarus and Russia, for instance.  Many of the maps have the
original town names, and many don't have latitude and longitude markings.



And, I did not check the latitudes and longitudes of the Romanowka locations
either, so those in Poland may not fall within Volhynia.  But, some of
present day Poland was within the confines of Volynia, was it not?



 I do not have expertise in Volhynian research, so I think I will refrain in
the future from input, and will only read the posts for my own learning.  My
original reason for reading this particular news list was because of
research for a friend for the surname of "Borma".  We are still working on
this without much success.



Thanks again for your comments.



Joe in Texas



From: Jerry Frank [mailto:FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca]
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 12:09 PM
To: joepessarra
Cc: 'Gary Warner'; 'Sandy Burke'; ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Location of Kasmirowka



Joe,

None of these Romanowka apply as they are all in Poland.  The references in
the original message are to Volhynia.

ShtetlSeeker is a great resource but there are numerous places, especially
in Volhynia, that are not included in its databases.


Jerry



----- Original Message -----
From: joepessarra <joepessarra at suddenlink.net>
Date: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:57 am
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Location of Kasmirowka
To: 'Gary Warner' <gary at warnerengineering.com>, 'Sandy Burke'
<sburke091 at comcast.net>
Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org

> Gary,
>
> Which one of these Romanowka locations is the one you are
> referring to?
>
> Joe in Texas
>
> Romanówka populated place 50°35' N 23°20' E  E M U G
> Poland  152.8 miles SE
> of Warszawa 52°15' N 21°0' E
> Romanówka populated place 52°29' N 22°55' E  E M U G
> Poland  82.4 miles ENE
> of Warszawa 52°15' N 21°0' E
> Romanówka populated place 53°33' N 23°21' E  E M U G
> Poland  132.8 miles NE
> of Warszawa 52°15' N 21°0' E
> Romanówka, Romanówka Nowa populated place 50°47' N 21°45'
> E  E M U G Poland
> 106.3 miles SSE of Warszawa 52°15' N 21°0' E
> Romanowka, Romanovka populated place 51°45' N 42°45' E  E M
> U G Russia
> 346.6 miles SE of Moskva 55°45' N 37°37' E
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org
> [mailto:ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org] On Behalf
> Of Gary
> Warner
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 11:22 AM
> To: Sandy Burke
> Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Location of Kasmirowka
>
> Beth,
>
> There are only a few records in our Master Pedigree Database
> (MPD) with
> the location Kasmirowka.    Other than the
> records you note below, they
> are for the Henkel family, who show the location as Kasimirowka
> or
> Kasmierowka, Kiev, , Russia.
>
> I note also that for the family you note below, that the mother
> is shown
> as born in Romanowka, and that is most likely in the Rozyszcze
> parish of
> Volhynia, so children born a bit further east is certainly a
> possibility.
> Gary Warner
>
> On 5/14/2010 8:54 AM, Sandy Burke wrote:
> > I have had amazing success recently find information about my
> ancestors.These are my father's aunt and uncle and first
> cousins.  I have been unable
> to figure out where Kasmirowka (the birthplace of the cousins)
> is.  I have
> tried several kinds of searches with no success.  I am
> hoping someone who
> knows how to use the site better than me can help. I am taking a
> trip to
> Europe this summer and want to visit as many places as possible.
> >
> >
> >        I37024
> >       HARTWIG
> >       Elisabeth (=Elsa)
> >       1record(s)
> >       F
> >       Kasmirowka
> >       18 Aug 1923
> >       I33314 : HARTWIG, Albert
> >       I34681 : GEIGER, Martha
> >
> >        I36915
> >       HARTWIG
> >       Erich
> >       1record(s)
> >       M
> >       Kasmirowka
> >       30 Nov 1928
> >       I33314 : HARTWIG, Albert
> >       I34681 : GEIGER, Martha
> >
> >        I36914
> >       HARTWIG
> >       Lydia
> >       1record(s)
> >       F
> >       Kasmirowka
> >       10 Jul 1926
> >       I33314 : HARTWIG, Albert
> >       I34681 : GEIGER, Martha
> >
> >
> >
> > Sandy Burke
> >
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