[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Village name of Pinelwatki, Russia (Spitz family)
Rose Ingram
roseingram at shaw.ca
Sun Nov 29 22:47:04 PST 2009
Geneen,
I used Ancestry.com for my searches. The transcriptions of many of the villages on Ellis Island databases and Ancestry for that matter are ALWAYS suspect.
I finally found Eduard and Adelgunde on the 1906 Manifest under the surname Seitz. Not sure how the transcribers got an "e' out of the "p".
My guess at what is written as last place of residence shown for these two is Pendwatki. (A misunderstanding of Pendratke??)
I found Lopold Spitz age 18 arriving in Dec. 1903. My guess at the written last place of residence appears to be Paschrafka.
Christian Spitz age 16 arrived in April 1906. I would guess the written last place of residence is Pingradka.
Albertina Spitz age 17 who arrived with her aunt Maryanna Tisch in December 1900, seems to given last place of residence as Penkrodko.
Given that the people drawing up the manifests are not familiar with these villages and/or the documentation provided for the manifest may have had the villages spelled incorrectly or unreadable, I think I see a definite pattern for the the village name, except for Leopold's residence which is a bit off.
If your family was from Pe~chratka all of the above makes sense. The diacritics on the letter "e" would sound like "an" or "en" hence written out as such on the manifests..
Rose Ingram
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Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Village name of Pinelwatki,Russia (Spitz family)
First, thank you all for trying to locate this village and the name itself.
There are many Passenger records that are hard to read. I am using Ellis
Island site and working alone trying to make out letters and names and its
not easy sometimes, but I am getting the experience. I spent a few hours
today going over some information I had for the Spitz family that were from “
Pechratka” Russia. Here is an example of trying to find an Immigration
record for a Leopold Spitz. On a census, it told me that he immigrated in 1904
but he actually immigrated on Dec. 22, 1903 and his name was entered as “
Sjitz”, so it took me awhile to find him. Just to let everybody know it is
possible to have records reviewed and changed from a mistaken transcription
as I have done with my G-Grandfather Alexander Strandt’s record thru Ellis
Island. There is a place to email them and in doing so, told them who I was,
gave them the right spelling and they sent me a quick response telling me
they would review the record. Another quick email after review and they
changed the “Stranot” to “Strandt”. I don’t know if its that easy with other
changes but if one knows the correct information, then changes can make
world of difference. In this particular record for Eduard Spitz from
Pinelwatki, I am stumped on the location but would not be surprised if “Pinelwatki”
was really “Pechratka”. On another brother’s Immigration record for
Christian Spitz, the record says Pingrsdka but his military clarifies he
immigrated from Pechratka and he also listed his brother Leopold Spitz, who lived
within a couple of blocks from each other in New Jersey. Another
transcription with the spelling of “Paul ratka” for the village of Pechratka. I
also came across another record for a probable sister but there are a couple
of names I can not make out. Are there any volunteers in the SGGEE Society
(of which I am a member) who might help me with trying to figure out a
couple of words? The girl’s name is Allertina Spitz (could be Albertina) and
she immigrated on Dec. 26, 1900 with her Aunt Maryann Tisch? The Immigration
record says “Penkrvdko” but I think it must be “Pechratka”. Maryann’s
brother L. Kremring? is waiting. Three lines down another relative Karl
Kremring is with them. For Emilia, I can not make out if it says “kin”?
Geneen Giberson
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