[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 68, Issue 10
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Wed Jan 7 07:28:17 PST 2009
Happy New year.
I have been out of touch and likely missed renewal of membership.
I am interested in Rozyszcze records; have they been updated and how do I access them?
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Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009 3:01 pm
Subject: Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 68, Issue 10
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> 1. victories (Carol Duff)
> 2. Re: victories (Eduardo Kommers)
> 3. Re: Polonized German Names (Otto)
> 4. Re: victories (Carol Duff)
> 5. Re: Polonized German Names (Annegret Krause)
> 6. Re: Polonized German Names (Andrew Barrett-Bettcher)
> 7. Re: Polonized German Names (Gary Warner)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:15:25 -0600
> From: Carol Duff <cmduff at redwing.net>
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] victories
> To: bronklimach at gmail.com, ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Message-ID: <49639FBD.7050606 at redwing.net>
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> I am going through all the Rozyszcze records on the pilot
> project. Today
> I found my great grandparents marriage on frame 123 of 1880. I
> have also
> found other births of their siblings. I am so very pleased...I
> just
> wanted to share this with you.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 16:26:00 -0200
> From: "Eduardo Kommers" <eduardo.kommers at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] victories
> To: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> Message-ID: <017501c9702c$415ebed0$0401010a at Eduardo>
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> When those records of Rozyszcze will be available on the website?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carol Duff" <cmduff at redwing.net>
> To: <bronklimach at gmail.com>; <ger-poland-
> volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:15 PM
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] victories
>
>
> >I am going through all the Rozyszcze records on the pilot
> project. Today
> > I found my great grandparents marriage on frame 123 of 1880. I
> have also
> > found other births of their siblings. I am so very pleased...I
> just
> > wanted to share this with you.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 14:06:37 -0500
> From: Otto <otto at schienke.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Polonized German Names
> To: GPV List <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> Cc: Reiner Kerp <mail at reiner-kerp.de>
> Message-ID: <A38A796E-FC9A-4E07-9E02-726686B62705 at schienke.com>
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> delsp=yes
>
> To clarify Reiner's statement: "beware of Reiner - he lies!"
>
> Reiner has never lied according to my knowledge.
> The definition for 'lie' is "a false statement made with
> deliberate
> intent to deceive"
> No, never to my knowledge.
>
> A discovery process. . . Yes.
> A tendency to complexify. . . Yes.
> We could go into the Dutch and East Frisian, even the Old
> Prussian
> meanings of 'Krahn' and still be left holding 'the bird'. Then
> into
> varying German/Norse dialects extending back to Sanskrit and
> still be
> left holding 'the bird'. I am certain Reiner and I would enjoy
> the
> mental stimulation as perhaps would others. The varying Platt
> dialects
> alone would be a challenge.
>
> The foremost problem is that most participants here speak
> one
> language, English. So in order not to confuse them I offer
> the
> following;
> These Common American Dictionary definitions for 'Krahn' are
> accurate
> seeing we are discussing the surname 'Krahn', and not the bird
> pecking
> at our heels. Dictionaries alone can be confusing?it is
> always on it
> author's shoulders to clarify expressed meanings.
>
> -crane
> 1. any large wading bird of the family Gruidae, characterized by
> long
> legs, bill, and neck and an elevated hind toe.
> (I have relatives with the long legs, noses, and necks, yet I
> never
> gave though to checking for the elevated hind toe. . .)
> -Krahn
> German: nickname for a slim or long-legged person, from Middle
> Low
> German krane ?crane?. Compare Kranich.
>
> There may be variations of the surname?I've found "Kran' with
> a
> dropped 'h' but that is all.
>
> As I've stated before, our past histories are unique.
>
> Even I was in error when I stated my uncle 'Albert Krahn'.
> Albert was
> my first cousin, his father, Julius, was my uncle. So much for
> old
> memory banks.
> =======
> . . . Otto
> " The Zen
> moment..." wk. of January 04, 2009-
> ________________________________
> "The future. . . . always catches up."
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:18:25 -0600
> From: Carol Duff <cmduff at redwing.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] victories
> To: Jim Stange <jjstange at gmail.com>,
> ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Message-ID: <4963AE81.5010800 at redwing.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Start at
> http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=2;c=1469151;t=browsable;w=0
> I go to Volyn, then to Lutsk, then to Rozhishche, and now I am
> on 1880
> records, frame 128. It takes forever, but I intend to go
> through all of
> the records. Earlier, I found the maiden name of my Great
> grandfather. I
> know that Jerry or Bronwyn can tell you better and perhaps will. Carol
>
> Jim Stange wrote:
> > Hello Carol,
> >
> > I am new to SGGEE this year. Can you explain the "pilot
> project" to
> > me breifely? I am interested as I have been trying to
> research many
> > of the LDS films on my ancestors from Poland but many are not
> filmed....>
> > Thanks,
> > Jim
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Carol Duff
> <cmduff at redwing.net
> > <mailto:cmduff at redwing.net>> wrote:
> >
> > I am going through all the Rozyszcze
> records on the pilot project.
> > Today
> > I found my great grandparents marriage
> on frame 123 of 1880. I
> > have also
> > found other births of their siblings.
> I am so very pleased...I just
> > wanted to share this with you.
> >
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 20:27:44 +0100
> From: "Annegret Krause" <krause.annegret at t-online.de>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Polonized German Names
> To: "'Reiner Kerp'" <mail at reiner-kerp.de>,
> <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> Message-ID: <CB470EC293334F77A678AB5F71F3778B at ANNEGRET>
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>
> Hello,
>
> in my family I have ZIELINSKI being a polonisation of GRUENING.
> "Zielony" is
> the Polish word for the colour "green".
>
> Regards, Annegret
>
> ________________________________________
> Annegret Krause
> Am Teeberg 16
> 29581 Bohlsen
> Tel. 05808-671
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org
> [mailto:ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org] On Behalf
> Of Reiner
> Kerp
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:29 AM
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Polonized German Names
>
> Dear fellow searchers,
>
> has anybody come across the names
>
> KOPRAWICZ (Kopr old Polish word for copper) being a polonisation
> of
> RODE or ROTH;
>
> GROCHOWSKI or GROCHULSKI (Groch - Erbse) being a polonisation of
> ERBER;
>
> and
>
> ZIELINSKY or MALACHOWSKI being a polonisation of GROEN(S) or
> GREN(S)
> or KRAHN(S) or (K)GREIN(S) (which have the first name Quirin as
> root)
> ?
>
>
> Mit sch?nen Gr??en und den besten W?nschen f?r das neue Jahr,
>
> Reiner (Kerp)
>
> aus Landsberg am Lech
>
> mailto:mail at reiner-kerp.de
>
> im web: http://reiner-kerp.de
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 14:29:17 -0500
> From: Andrew Barrett-Bettcher <barrett-bettcher at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Polonized German Names
> To: <krause.annegret at t-online.de>, <mail at reiner-kerp.de>,
> <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> Message-ID: <COL105-W319259A6AA0DA1C2C816CF9FDE0 at phx.gbl>
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>
>
> Any ideas about Boschatzke? It's from around Warsaw and
> she married a German and moved to Bessarabia.
> It sounds like Boszacki, but could that be a Polonization of
> something else?
> > From: krause.annegret at t-online.de> To: mail at reiner-kerp.de;
> ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009
> 20:27:44 +0100> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Polonized
> German Names> > Hello,> > in my family I have ZIELINSKI being a
> polonisation of GRUENING. "Zielony" is> the Polish word for the
> colour "green".> > Regards, Annegret> >
> ________________________________________> Annegret Krause> Am
> Teeberg 16> 29581 Bohlsen> Tel. 05808-671> > > -----Original
> Message-----> From: ger-poland-volhynia-
> bounces at eclipse.sggee.org> [mailto:ger-poland-volhynia-
> bounces at eclipse.sggee.org] On Behalf Of Reiner> Kerp> Sent:
> Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:29 AM> To: ger-poland-
> volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia]
> Polonized German Names> > Dear fellow searchers,> > has anybody
> come across the names> > KOPRAWICZ (Kopr old Polish word for
> copper) being a polonisation of > RODE or ROTH;> > GROCHOWSKI or
> GROCHULSKI (Groch - Erbse) being a polonisation of > ERBER;> >
> and>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:37:50 -0800
> From: Gary Warner <gary at warnerengineering.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Polonized German Names
> To: Reiner Kerp <mail at reiner-kerp.de>
> Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Message-ID: <4963B30E.3050605 at warnerengineering.com>
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> Reiner,
>
> I do not speak German, so I will leave the translations of the
> following
> into German to you.
>
> My Polish friend thinks that:
>
> if Kopra is a Polish word, and not a Latin one, then it is a
> conjugation
> of koper, which means the dill spice. The Polish
> word for copper has
> the root miedz with a slash over the z
>
> Groch is the peapod
>
> Ziel has to do with the color green
>
> Mala means small. She thought that the word malach
> might have a
> different meaning, but could not come up with it.
>
> Gary Warner
>
>
>
>
> Reiner Kerp wrote:
> > Dear fellow searchers,
> >
> > has anybody come across the names
> >
> > KOPRAWICZ (Kopr old Polish word for copper) being a
> polonisation of
> > RODE or ROTH;
> >
> > GROCHOWSKI or GROCHULSKI (Groch - Erbse) being a polonisation
> of
> > ERBER;
> >
> > and
> >
> > ZIELINSKY or MALACHOWSKI being a polonisation of GROEN(S) or
> GREN(S)
> > or KRAHN(S) or (K)GREIN(S) (which have the first name Quirin
> as root)
> > ?
> >
> >
> > Mit sch?nen Gr??en und den besten W?nschen f?r das neue Jahr,
> >
> > Reiner (Kerp)
> >
> > aus Landsberg am Lech
> >
> > mailto:mail at reiner-kerp.de
> >
> > im web: http://reiner-kerp.de
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
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