[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] film vs duplicates

[Richard Stein]

Carol,
While the St. Pete's films cover all of Volhynia starting in 1836 and ending 
in 1885, the 23800xy series is ONLY for Rozyszcze parish from its founding 
in 1862 and ending in 1895 or 1899.  Before 1862, there was only one parish, 
Zhitomir parish, in Volhynia.  Rozyszcze parish was carved out of Zhitomir 
parish in 1862, and then Heimtal was carved out of the reduced Zhitomir 
parish in 1870.  Pre-1862 records from the area later included Rozyszcze 
parish should be in the St. Petersburg films, if they aren't from the years 
missing in the St. Petersburg films.  Missing years Zhitomir parish: 
1837-1842, 1844, 1848, 1849, 1851, 1852, 1854, 1856, 1884;  Rozyszcze 
parish: 1865, 1871, 1884;  Heimtal parish: 1871, 1873, 1874, 1884.

Dick

--- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carol Jones" <thejoneses at shaw.ca>
To: "Richard Stein" <ra_stein at telus.net>; "Carol Duff" <cmduff at redwing.net>; 
<ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] film vs duplicates


>
> Dick, thanks for your explanation on the Rozy and St Pete films.  You
> mention that St Pete films before 1860 are missing, and that the missing
> years of the St Pete films can be found in the Rozy 23800xy films.  If the
> Rozy films don't start until 1862, are you referring to other than 
> pre-1860
> St Pete missing films?
>
> Carol Jones
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richard Stein" <ra_stein at telus.net>
> To: "Carol Duff" <cmduff at redwing.net>;
> <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] film vs duplicates
>
>
>> Carol and others with an interest in Rozyszcze parish,
>>
>> I am familiar with both the St. Petersburg films and the series 23800xy
>> films and can comment on the differences.
>>
>> The St. Petersburg films cover the whole of Volhynia (parishes Zhitomir 
>> as
>> early as 1836, Rozyszcze from its founding in 1862, and Heimtal from its
>> founding in 1870) until the end of 1885.  There are missing years,
>> especially in Zhitomir before 1860.  For Rozyszce which is of interest
>> here,
>> the years 1865, 1871, and 1884 are missing.  The St. Petersburg films 
>> have
>> been indexed (Odessa site) and also scanned (LDS pilot site).
>>
>> The 23800xy films are from the AGAD archive in Warsaw and cover only
>> Rozyszcze parish from 1862 to 1895 (and to 1899 for births).  Possibly
>> these
>> are from the original parish register books.  Generally, the birth and
>> death
>> records of the St. Petersburg copy are the same as in the 23800xy films,
>> with some errors as we have seen in Stefan's case.  However, the St.
>> Petersburg marriage record is only an index with names of groom and bride
>> and marriage date.  The 23800xy films give the full marriage record with
>> ages, birthplaces, parents' names (or first spouse's name in the case of 
>> a
>> widow or widower).  Finally, they contain the missing years of the St.
>> Petersburg copy.
>>
>> The 23800xy films also contain records from Wladimir-Wolynski parish from
>> its founding in 1891.  Note also that the language changes to Russian
>> Cyrillic starting in 1892 for both Rozsyzcze and Wladimir Wolynski. 
>> There
>> is also an index film 2380024 and a film of confirmations.
>>
>> SGGEE has started a project to add data from the 23800xy films to its
>> version of the St. Petersburg film index.  Announcements will be made as
>> the
>> data is added.
>>
>> Dick Stein
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Carol Duff" <cmduff at redwing.net>
>> To: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
>> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:46 AM
>> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] film vs duplicates
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Stefan, It is good to know thins."isn't in the duplicates but in the
>>> original (FHL Film 2380031): the birth location" So even if I have found
>>> imformation in these records, there may be more in the films. Carol
>>>
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