[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Gottfried Hohertz from Zrawin

[j burns]

Thanks John,
That is stunning that they have so many different names for Dobry Kut-total
confusion for me. I can see I have a lot of reading to do on the history of
the area. Maybe then I will be able to ask some questions.
The information passed on to me an in-law relative shows 9 children born to
George Karl Hermann and Karoline Obst-most of them in the Jhitomir and
Wolwachuwka.
John
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Rauchert" <jfrauchert at shaw.ca>
To: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Gottfried Hohertz from Zrawin


I have been doing research around Wolwachowka (my father was born there in
1904) and Dobry Kut/Dobri Kunt and have been compiling lists available
online of people born there.

In addition the 2 siblings previously mentioned there is a third

Hermann Ferdinand   13-Sep 1878 Wolwachuwka  Georg (?) bst, Karoline
1895627/2 504 74

as well as possible relation of Georg's in the same area

Herrman Wilhelm     18-Oct 1883 Walwachowka  Karl  Neumann, Marie
1897692/1 85  959
Herrmann Wilhelmine 30-Dec 1884 Walwachowka  Karl  Neumann, Marianna
1897692/1 87  976

Also there are a number of Hermann's associated with Wolwachowka and Dobry
Kut entries listed in the EWZ records. Of the most interest would be the
entry for
Hermann, Georg 1832 Muenchen A3342EWZ50-I055 1320


EWZ Records

Hermann, Anna 24 Dec, 1925  A3342EWZ58-H028 2982 geb. Brils
Hermann, Euphrosine 16 Oct, 1882 Dobryj Kunt A3342EWZ50-A031 1330 geb.
Hermann
Hermann, Euphrosyne 16 Oct, 1882 Dobryj Kunt A3342EWZ58-H034 0222 geb.
Hermann
Hermann, Georg 1832 Muenchen A3342EWZ50-I055 1320
Hermann, Gottfried 1877  A3342EWZ50-A031 1330
Hermann, Gottfried 1877  A3342EWZ58-H034 0222
Hermann, Olga 14 Jan, 1913 Wyrub A3342EWZ58-H037 1294 geb. Duesterhoeft
Hermann, Otto 4 Jun, 1923 Wolwachowka A3342EWZ58-H028 2982
Hermann, Richard 18 Mar, 1907 Wolwachowka A3342EWZ58-H037 1294
Hermann, Wilhelm 1874 Warschau A3342EWZ50-G078 0322
Hermann, Wilhelm 1872 Walwachowka A3342EWZ50-H043 0118
Hermann, Wilhelm 1880 Maicherowka A3342EWZ50-H043 0118
Hermann, Wilhelm 1875 Wolwachowka A3342EWZ58-H028 2982
Hermann, Wilhelmine 1880 Wolwachowka A3342EWZ50-G078 0322 geb. Weiss
Hermann, Wilhelmine 1883 Wolwachowka A3342EWZ58-H028 2982 geb. Weiss

For more information on EWZ see
http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/wiki/Einwanderungszentralstelle_(EWZ)_Antr%C3%A4ge
http://www.daveobee.com/links/ewz.htm

Here is a description of  Wolwachowka and Dobri Kunt

Wolwachowka
Es gab um 1904/1905 den Ort "Wolwachowka" im Kirchspiel Shitomir (Quelle:
PINGOUD):
Wolwachowka, dt. Eigentümer, 370 evang. Einwohner, Bethaus, Schule mit 67
Schülern, der Pastor besuchte den Ort 2x im Jahr, zu diesem Ort gehörten die
Nachbarsiedlungen: [Wolwachowka mit] Dobri Kunt, dt. Eigentümer und
[Wolwachowka mit] Macharowka, Pachtkolonie.

English Translation:
There was the village around 1904/1905 "Wolwachowka" in the Parish Shitomir
(source: PINGOUD):
Wolwachowka, German land owners, 370 Evangelical Lutheran Inhabitants, 1
prayer house, school with 67 pupils, the Pastor visited the village 2x in
the year, to this village belonged the neighbour settlements: [ Wolwachowka
with ] Dobri Kunt, German land owners and [ Wolwachowka with ] Macharowka,
lease colony.

Source: Description of village derived from Die Evangelisch-Lutherischen
Gemeinden in Russland, Book 1,  p. 188-229.  This Ortsliste (list of
villages) was compiled by Gernot Pingoud, the leader of the Lutheran
Consistory St. Petersburg in 1909.

Finally Dobry Kut has a number of spelling variations here are a sample from
EWZ

Debrikut
Dobri Chut
Dobrikun, Shitomir
Dobrikund
Dobri-Kunt
Dobrikut
Dobrokun
Dobrokund
Dobro-Kund, Shitomir
Dobrokunt
Dobrokunt
Dobrokunt, Shitomir
Dobrowy Hut, Cherson
Dobrowy-Kut
Dobry Hut
Dobry Kun, Shitomir
Dobry Kunt
Dobry Kut
Dobryi-Kut, Shitomir
Dobryj
Dobryj Kont
Dobryj Kund, Shitomir
Dobryj Kunt
Dobryj Kunt, Shitomir
Dobryj Kut
Dobryj Kut, Shitomir
Dobryj-Kunt
Dobryj-Kut
Dobrykun
Dobry-Kunt
Dobry-Kut


John F. Rauchert
Calgary, Alberta
jfrauchertatshaw.ca

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 19:34:34 -0700
> From: "j burns" <johnburns at telus.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Gottfried Hohertz from Zrawin
> To: "Ivan Teise" <ivanvep at gmail.com>,
> <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
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> Thanks Ivan for the 3 births and map.
> Shitomir, Wolwachowka, and Dobry Kut-very interesting. Is Kiew to the
> bottom
> right Kiev?
> I can't use that index as it keeps freezing my computer.
> John
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ivan Teise" <ivanvep at gmail.com>
> To: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 5:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Gottfried Hohertz from Zrawin
>
>
>> Hello John,
>>
>> I found births of Pauline Herrmann and 2 siblings in the Odessa site:
>> www.odessa3.org
>> This is a site with extractions from the books of the St. Petersburg
>> Lutheran Consistory, covering the years 1836 through 1885 (some missing).
>>
>> Last, First Name; D/M; Year; Place; Father; Mother
>>
>> Herrmann, Pauline; 15 Aug; 1866; Shitomir; Georg; Obst, Karoline
>> Herrmann, Emilie; 29 Jun; 1868; Welenachewka; Georg; Obst, Karoline
>> Herrmann, Wilhelm; 21 Sep; 1872; Wolwachowka; Georg; Ost, Karoline
>>
>> In this map http://www.wolhynien.de/images/Karte_OstWolhynien_Stumpp.gif
> you
>> can find Shitomir in E5 and Wolwachowka in D5. There is no Welenachewka,
>> maybe it was the same as Wolwachowka. The map has an index
>> http://www.wolhynien.de/pdf/1939Stumpp.pdf
>>
>> There was a village called Dobry Kut near Wolwachowka (look at the map),
> and
>> I think it could be Dobrokud.
>>
>> Ivan Teise
>>


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