[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Gostynin
Rachael Patterson
patterson.rachael at gmail.com
Tue Oct 31 10:46:54 PST 2006
Here's somewhat of the translation via my good friend Dr Margaret Pokroy...
This site talks mostly about the reconstruction of the Castle in Gostyn, it
doesn't mention the Protestant Church being restored.
Below is an piece out of the history of the city. It mentions a little about
the German settlers and Jewish population. The pictures are that of the the
Jewish Ghetto and the town main square in 1943. Here is what it more or less
says:
"In 1793 Prussian Army took control of the city. At this time the remains of
the castle were taken down and the archive was removed.
In 1809 much of the city suffered during a fire. The economic situation was
grim until about 1824 when a 100 German dressmakers arrived in Gostyn. The
economy developed and the city grew. The colonists settled in the south part
of the city along the present day Dmowski and Polish Legions streets, as
well as on the east along the streeets: Polish Army and Florian. At this
time the Gostyn got a new city hall and Evangelical Church buildings. In
1839 the Parish of St. Martin was rebuild (previously destroyed by fire).
In the mid 19th century there were only 26 families left from the original
German settlers. Next to Germans and the Poles there were also Jews, most of
whom perished during WW II.
By mid 19th century there were 3 elemntary schools: catholic, protestant and
jewish."
Gilda
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> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 14:39:49 -0600
> From: "Rachael Patterson" <patterson.rachael at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 41,
> Issue 40
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> Jerry...I have also forwarded the website
> http://www.gostynin.pl/side.php?id=91 to my good friend, a Polish
> transcriber. Will keep you posted.
>
> This is of interest to me also as my long-lost cousin (from Cleveland,
> OH)'s
> GGrandmother's BRec is from the Gostynin Lutheran Church, who's
> GGrandfather
> happens to be my Grandmother's brother...and interestingly, when I first
> met
> up with my cousin, she had the BRec framed & hanging on her wall, knowing
> that it was a document of great importance. By the experiences I've gained
> from my own research, I immediately recognized it as a BRec in the
> Cyrillic
> Russian language, and a Russian transcriber I knew transcribed it for her.
> My cousin's GGrandmother, Marryanna nee Kannenberg Schmeltzer was born in
> Karolewo, Gostynin, Warszawa, Poland, 15 Oct 1882, 7AM. This is so
> exciting!
>
> Gilda inCalgary
>
> Jerry Frank <FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca> wrote:
> According to this:
>
> http://www.gostynin.pl/side.php?id=91
>
> it appears that the old Lutheran Church in Gostynin is being restored and
> an
> addition is being constructed.
>
> Can anyone with knowledge of Polish please provide a brief summary of the
> info on this page?
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> Jerry Frank
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> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 23:13:08 +0200 (CEST)
> From: Paul Rakow <rakow at ifh.de>
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Belchatow
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> Is there anyone else here who is interested in Belchatow, a textile
> town in Poland, south of Lodz?
>
> I have ancestors who lived there in the 1820s. I've found some records
> of my relatives in the microfilmed metrical books, and am now wondering
> what else there might be to look at.
>
> In the British library I've found a local history book, "Belchatow
> and its historical advance", by Apoloniusz Zawilski, (written 1967, when
> Poland was still communist, which helps to explain the title). It's a
> bit of a struggle reading it, since my Polish is quite feeble.
>
> From the sources he uses, it seems that there are quite a few
> surviving financial/tax records from the time when the cloth industry
> was getting started, some in the archives in Warsaw. Some of these
> include lists of craftsmen. Has anyone experience of this sort of
> material, maybe from other towns in the Lodz area?
>
> Paul Rakow
> rakow at ifh.de
>
> PS - The main Belchatow families I'm interested in are Gruenke and Zibell,
> (with very many spelling variations).
>
>
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> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 14:41:56 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Worth Anderson <worth_a at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] FHL Research Outline
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> Many thanks to everyone who responded to my inquiry
> about the "Kartei Quassowski." Some have asked about
> the Family History Library Research outline that
> mentioned the "Kartei."
>
> I picked it up at my local Family History Center.
> When the director noticed I was ordering a Polish
> film, she mentioned it had just come in. It cost
> US$3.50 or US$3.75, or something like that. Bear in
> mind the document covers all of Poland, and is not
> focused on ethnic Germans.
>
> The document has 35 pages, and is divided into
> numerous short sections, such as: biography, census,
> church directories, church history, church records,
> civil registration, directories (secular), emigration
> and immigration, encylopedias and dictionaries,
> gazetteers, genealogy, heraldry, historical geography,
> history, Jewish records, land and property, language
> and languages, maps, military records, minorities,
> names (personal), nobility, periodicals, probate
> records, social life and customs, societies, etc.
>
> It also has three pages of maps which will be useful
> to me in understanding how items for a given place
> have been catalogued by the Family History Library.
>
> The information under the headings varies. For
> example, under "Land and Property" it states, in part:
> "The Family History Library has very few land records
> from Poland. Because of the availability of better
> genealogical sources, such as church records and civil
> registration, land records are seldom used in Polish
> research. In addition, land records in Poland are not
> easily accessible. The existing records are now found
> at various state archives. You might be able to use
> land records for your research if you can visit the
> Polish archives in person or hire a local research
> agent."
>
> Under censuses, the document notes that Prussian
> population surveys occurred in 1789, 1793, and 1797,
> but states census records are scattered and hard to
> locate.
>
> Worth
>
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> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 17:09:36 -0600
> From: "Richard Stein" <ra_stein at telus.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Belchatow
> To: "Paul Rakow" <rakow at ifh.de>,
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> Paul,
>
> I extracted the indexes from Belchatow Lutheran microfilms and they are in
> the Parish Records Indexes database. I don't see any Gruenke names, but
> there are some Zippel that could be a spelling variant of Zibell. I don't
> know much about the town of Belchatow or what other records may be
> available. Lutheran records started in 1808, but records of 1826 to 1836
> are missing.
>
> Dick Stein
>
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> From: "Paul Rakow" <rakow at ifh.de>
> To: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 3:13 PM
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Belchatow
>
>
> >
> > Is there anyone else here who is interested in Belchatow, a textile
> > town in Poland, south of Lodz?
> >
> > I have ancestors who lived there in the 1820s. I've found some
> records
> > of my relatives in the microfilmed metrical books, and am now wondering
> > what else there might be to look at.
> >
> > In the British library I've found a local history book, "Belchatow
> > and its historical advance", by Apoloniusz Zawilski, (written 1967,
> when
> > Poland was still communist, which helps to explain the title). It's a
> > bit of a struggle reading it, since my Polish is quite feeble.
> >
> > From the sources he uses, it seems that there are quite a few
> > surviving financial/tax records from the time when the cloth industry
> > was getting started, some in the archives in Warsaw. Some of these
> > include lists of craftsmen. Has anyone experience of this sort of
> > material, maybe from other towns in the Lodz area?
> >
> > Paul Rakow
> > rakow at ifh.de
> >
> > PS - The main Belchatow families I'm interested in are Gruenke and
> Zibell,
> > (with very many spelling variations).
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by
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