[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Use of Material in Presentation

Tue Jul 4 11:49:16 PDT 2006

My typo - "Willow-Wattle" fence...which I find fascinating...that
these are still in existence today. I can imagine them having been
constructed during my grandparents childhood in the 1800s. I also
should carify for Jutta that the material used off the upstreamvistula
website is not being "published", but rather merely "presented" in a
ppt format at the SGGEE Convention in Edmonton Aug 11-13. My
presentation is on the 12th. Many thanks...Gilda Patterson, Calgary,
AB, CANADA.

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>    1. Re: SGGEE website featured in magazine (merschel at ucla.edu)
>    2. Re: Use of Material in Presentation (Rachael Patterson)
>    3. Re: SGGEE website featured in magazine (Otto)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2006 14:34:22 -0700
> From: merschel at ucla.edu
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] SGGEE website featured in magazine
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
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> Not to mention how polite and informative the mailing list is!
>
> Quoting Jerry Frank <FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca>:
>
> > "Practical Web Design" is a magazine published in England.  Every
> > month they select 7 web sites created by amateurs for review and
> > comment.  Our SGGEE site was chosen for the July issue and was
> > declared the winner of the 7 reviewed with 79 out of 100 points.  We
> > are now tied for second place in the list of top 20 for the past 7
> > months.
> >
> > Comments included:
> >
> > Under a large picture of our home page
> > - "Excellent planning and use of drop-downs in the navigation scheme
> > makes this packed site a breeze to use."
> >
> > Under a picture of the site index
> > - "The site index gives visitors an overview of what's available."
> >
> > Under a picture of my map of Volhynia
> > - "The site is bursting with quality content."
> >
> > Along with the ratings
> > - "Jerry has taken the great content he inherited and created a site
> > that makes it a breeze to access.  The design compliments the subject
> > rather than vying for attention and creates an easy to use and
> > valuable research resource."
> >
> > Ratings
> > - Design 17/25
> > - Usability 22/25
> > - Accessibility 17/25
> > - Content 23/25
> > - Total 79/100
> >
> > Special thanks are due to Gary Warner for creating the initial
> > content.  Also thanks to Irene Kopetzke who patiently helped me to
> > understand CSS basics and kept me on the straight and narrow
> > regarding colour selection and other design issues.  Matt Warner of
> > course helps greatly with the technical side of things, especially
> > for the various search functions and we thank him for that.
> >
> > This magazine is generally only available at larger book shops such
> > as Barnes and Nobel, Chapters, Indigo, etc.  The article is on page
> > 17 of the July issue.
> >
> >
> > Jerry Frank
> > SGGEE Webmaster
> >
> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 07:49:20 -0700
> From: "Rachael Patterson" <patterson.rachael at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Use of Material in Presentation
> To: "Jutta Dennerlein" <Jutta.Dennerlein at t-online.de>
> Cc: GerPolandVolhynia <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
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> Hi Jutta,
>
> Thank you for your lengthy reply. Yes, indeed, the website is well
> maintained. To be more specific, I merely wanted to use some of the images
> in my electronic ppt slide presentation of the Lutheran Church of Wyszogrod
> (my grandfather's childhood churdh), and the Lutheran Church of Plotsk
> (where both my grandparents were married in 1912), as well as a couple of
> the images of the beautiful Vistula River with the beautiful images of the
> Blue Vistula Thistle & the Will-wattle fence, giving full recognition &
> reference to the source being the website of upstreamvistula.
>
> I'm not sure if I feel confident, re presentation at the SGGEE converence,
> but I will try my very best, as I do have a lot of interesting material,
> that may be of interest to other fellow-researchers. I've given
> presentations before, but not of this nature, until last night at our Family
> Reunion, which went over quite well.
>
> I am a stickler about giving credit where credit is due, and would still
> love to use the above-mentioned material off your website. I've used
> Russian, German, and Polish translaters for my records, as well as the
> assistance with other pertinent material from such wonderful genealogists as
> Paul Work, Jerry Frank, and Rose Ingram...and have given credit to each &
> every translator in my presentation.
>
> Many thanks & Best regards,
>
> Gilda
>
>
> On 7/2/06, Jutta Dennerlein <Jutta.Dennerlein at t-online.de> wrote:
> >
> >  Gilda,
> >
> > I post my reply to your mail also to this mailing list, since it might be
> > interesting for more people.
> >
> > You wrote that you want to use content of the UpstreamVistula.org website
> > for your presentation. You did not explain what exactly you wanted to use
> > and in which way (and to which extent).
> >
> >  If you feel competent enough to do a presentation at a Convention where
> > people have to pay for listening to your speech you certainly have a lot
> of
> > interesting and unpublished material as the results of your own research.
> > The announcement of your presentation for this Convention says that you
> > already do have this material - so you don't have to use any material
> > published on the Upstream Vistula website!
> >
> > The authors of UpstreamVistula.org are investing a lot of time and effort
> > to contribute carefully researched content to this website. We make all of
> > this content free available because we want to share it with everybody who
> > is interested in the history of ethnic Germans in Central Poland. We
> invest
> > a lot of time in maintaining the bilingual character of this website to
> make
> > it available to as many people as possible. We are also convinced that our
> > content is already presented in a comprehensive and easy to navigate
> manner.
> >
> > So what would be the "added value" of re-publishing or re-presenting
> > content that is already free accessible for everybody on the internet?
> >
> > In January I already sent a similar reply to Earl Schultz's request to
> > publish Upstream Vistula content in the SGGEE Journal - he never answered
> to
> > my reply so I assume he agreed with me.
> >
> > Kind regards
> >  Jutta Dennerlein
> > www.UpstreamVistula.org <http://www.upstreamvistula.org/>
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > *From:* Rachael Patterson [mailto:patterson.rachael at gmail.com]
> > *Sent:* Saturday, June 24, 2006 6:24 PM
> > *To:* jutta.dennerlein at upstreamvistula.org
> > *Subject:* Use of Material in Presentation
> >
> > Hello Jutta,
> >
> > We've exchanged emails information research on a previous occasion.
> >
> > I will be doing a Genealogical Presentation over the Canada Day long
> > weekend, in a ppt format for my Family Reunion in Edmonton, Alberta,
> Canada,
> > and was wondering if you would allow me to use some of the material off
> the
> > Website Upstream Vistula, as my extensive genealogical research has traced
> > my family lineage to German Settlers along the Vistula River. I would give
> > full credit to your website.
> >
> > Also, I have a cousin, who's father has transcribed the entire German
> > document "Plock 125th Anniversary", and if you are interested, I can
> submit
> > this to you. My cousin says it is okay to do so. I believe I've emailed
> you
> > on this previously.
> >
> > Hoping to receive a response from you, as I will also be doing a
> > Genealogical Presentation at the up-and-coming Aug SGGEE Convention, held
> in
> > Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, and I was hoping to use some references to your
> > website Upstream Vistula as well, giving full credit to all sources used.
> > You've done a marvelous job (and I can only imagine the countless of work
> > involved in this).
> >
> > Many thanks,
> >
> > Gilda J. Patterson
> > Calgary, AB, CANADA
> >
> >
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 11:30:20 -0400
> From: Otto <otto at schienke.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] SGGEE website featured in magazine
> To: S G G E E <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
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> Good morning Jerry and et alia-
>
> Edison once stated that success is based on 1% inspiration and 99%
> perspiration.
> Most today prefer air-conditioning.
>
> Analyzing his statement one becomes aware it is a shallow observation,
> something much deeper is at play.
> A persistent determination, a tenaciousness, driven by a deep-seated
> passion.
> A passion I refer to as "fire in the belly".
>
> That passion is exhibited openly by a majority of our clansmen.
> Refreshingly so.    http://www.sggee.org/
> A well-designed website proves to be a powerful instrument
> for global dissemination of the years of that effort and passion.
> A passion displayed by so many,
> though separated by political boundaries, and oceans.
>
> "Pigmaei gigantum humeris impositi plusquam ipsi gigantes vident"
> (Bernardus Camotenis-circa 1100 ce)
> The Internet truly allows us 'dwarfs' to stand on the shoulders of
> giants.
> On their shoulders, we see farther than they ever could.
>
> Enjoy the kudos, you earn them.
> "Work and struggle... polish uniqueness."
>
> On Jun 30, 2006, at 5:33 PM, Jerry Frank wrote:
> > "Practical Web Design"
> > - "Jerry has taken the great content he inherited and created a
> > site that makes it a breeze to access. Special thanks are due to
> > Gary Warner for creating the initial content.  Also thanks to Irene
> > Kopetzke who patiently helped me to understand CSS basics and kept
> > me on the straight and narrow regarding colour selection and other
> > design issues.  Matt Warner of course helps greatly with the
> > technical side of things, especially for the various search
> > functions and we thank him for that.
> . . .  Otto
>
>                       " The Zen moment..." wk. of March 5, 2006
>                       ________________________________
>                          "Remove what isn't... What is remains."
>
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