[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Re: LEARNING ENGLISH

[Gilda J. Patterson]

Interesting...my mother was born in Rydzyno, Poland in 1923; emigrated to
Canada at age three in 1927. She learned English through the school system,
speaking German at home, and has an accent to this day, and she's 81, almost
82. Truly interesting about the development of the palet, and the
environment born into, etc. Thank you for this most interesting topic.

G. J. Patterson
Calgary, Alberta
CANADA
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>    1. Born in Berlin, Germany  (ResearchWBCP at aol.com)
>    2. Re: Born in Berlin, Germany (Rose Ingram)
>    3. Re: Born in Berlin, Germany (Guenther Boehm)
>    4. learning English (Ohgrmtns at aol.com)
>    5. "LEARNING ENGLISH" (Otto)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 16:06:55 EDT
> From: ResearchWBCP at aol.com
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Born in Berlin, Germany
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> A friend, in hope that the SGGEE members can help  locating information
> regarding her Grandmother sent the following information to  me:
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> â?oâ?oMy Grandmother on my Dad's side was born Marie  Frieda Gertrude
Reinmuth
> born in Berlin Germany June 5th 1879 married Edgar  Lockwood, passed away
July
> 4th, 1951 in Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada
> My  father told me, that the Reinmuth name was changed to Hill during war
> times. I  know grandmother had relatives in Nova Scotia with the last name
> Wright. ( I  believe it was a sister)
> I have an old map book of the southern alpine by  Karl Baedeker with her
> father's signature and it looks like it is signed
> Ph.  W. Reinmuth
> Graz, Lanefgaffn 28 (spelling may not be correct handwriting is  pen &
ink)��
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> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:14:11 -0700
> From: Rose Ingram <roseingram at shaw.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Born in Berlin, Germany
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> Are you are looking for Marie's parents names?  Does your friend have a
copy
> of Marie's death record.?
>
> A search at  http://search.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/sn-5E04435/gbsearch/Deaths
> shows a registered death for Maria Lockwood in 1951 on Microfilm # B13208.
> The Surrey/Cloverdale Public Library has all the Vital Records films.
> Hopefully  this death record will show her parents names and confirm her
> birth date and place.
>
> If you cannot attend the Surrey Library, you can order the same records
> through your local Family History Center, on film #2032700 for a small
fee.
>
> Rose Ingram.
>
>
> From: <ResearchWBCP at aol.com>
>
> A friend, in hope that the SGGEE members can help  locating information
> regarding her Grandmother sent the following information to  me:
>
> â?oâ?oMy Grandmother on my Dad's side was born Marie  Frieda Gertrude
Reinmuth
> born in Berlin Germany June 5th 1879 married Edgar  Lockwood, passed away
> July
> 4th, 1951 in Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada
> My  father told me, that the Reinmuth name was changed to Hill during war
> times. I  know grandmother had relatives in Nova Scotia with the last name
> Wright. ( I  believe it was a sister)
> I have an old map book of the southern alpine by  Karl Baedeker with her
> father's signature and it looks like it is signed
> Ph.  W. Reinmuth
> Graz, Lanefgaffn 28 (spelling may not be correct handwriting is  pen &
>  ink)��
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 00:29:41 +0200
> From: Guenther Boehm <GHBoehm at ish.de>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Born in Berlin, Germany
> To: ResearchWBCP at aol.com
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> ResearchWBCP at aol.com schrieb:
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> >Graz, Lanefgaffn 28 (spelling may not be correct handwriting is  pen &
ink)��
> >
> Hello WBCP (is this your name?)
> sorry but there is no Lanesgasse (I think he misunderstood the Suetterlin
s as f and the e as n because they look quite similar) but just
>
> Lagergasse
> Lagknergasse
> Landhausgasse
> Lange Gasse and
> Lenaugasse
>
> looking a bit similar in present Graz. In the actual telephone register
there is no REINMUTH, neither in Graz nor in whole Styria (just two in whole
Austria). Could you send me a scan of the signature?
>
> Guenther Boehm
> Hilden, Germany
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> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 22:57:49 EDT
> From: Ohgrmtns at aol.com
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] learning English
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> I am told by my father that my g-father, AUGUST FEIFERT, spoke perfect
> English without any accent. However, he came to the US in 1910 at 17 not
knowing
> any English whatsoever. How could that be? Could it imply that he was of
> northern German descent?
>
>
> Kristen FEIFERT Clark
>
> Researching : (P)FEIFERT, STIEBNER,  NEUBERT, KOCHAN
> Searching: Nedbajewka, Rohrbach(Berjozowka), Gruental,  Kutuzowka
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 09:44:20 -0400
> From: Otto <otto at schienke.com>
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] "LEARNING ENGLISH"
> To: S G G E E <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
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> Kristin,
> Accents:
> No one is truly without accent, regardless of where they were born.
> The human speech box development in childhood is influenced by
> vocalization of language in the immediate area of birth and speech
> development. Muscle and palette development are 'set' in very early
> childhood. Glottis, vocal cords, larnynx. . .etc.
> The human vocal organs: Nasal cavity, Hard palate, Alveoral ridge, Soft
> palate (Velum), Tip of the tongue (Apex), Dorsum, Uvula, Radix,
> Pharynx, Epiglottis, False vocal cords, Vocal cords, Larynx, Esophagus,
> and Trachea.
>
> Your grandfather undoubtedly had an accent similar to the village he
> was born in. (barring speech impediment and congenital malformation of
> the voice box.)  There are numerous North German dialects. The only way
> he could possess a North German accent of any type is to have been born
> and spoken a particular North German dialect during early speech
> formative years.  As far as 'perfect English' is concerned; I was born
> in the United States, in Cleveland, an area fairly free of dialect, yet
> I possess a German accent.  During my early formative years I spoke
> 'high' German (Luther's hilly Hessian, the clan's Russian Poland
> variety of it) plus a bit of Platt. (An East Prussian flatland dialect
> Platt)   As an old man I still vocalize my "R's", as a Bostonian would,
> to prevent the rolling of them. (Including a peck basket full of other
> flaws.)
>
> Rely on birth, marriage and death records to verify line of descent- It
> far surpasses oral myth.
> After some 300 years we are related only to a surname, hardly any
> genetic connection is left after that.
> We belong to the breeding group we are connected to.
>
>
> ... Otto
>
> " The Zen moment..." wk. of February 20, 2005-
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