[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Re: [G-P-V] Tchechei; place-names

[richard benert]

Does this imply, John, that Catholic women did not tend to marry Lutheran 
men?  If so, are there any suggestions as to why Lutheran women would marry 
Catholic men more than the other way around?

Dick Benert
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "gpvjem" <gpvjem at sasktel.net>
To: <AlbertMuth at aol.com>; <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Re: [G-P-V] Tchechei; place-names


>    In response to Al's email.  My attempt to determine the size and 
> location of Tchechei by relating it to  Sudetenland was obviously 
> incorrect.  However, as result of the many replies received, I have a 
> better picture of the specific area which mentioned so often in the 
> Lutheran Lodz Trinity records
>    I could add many place names (from Tchechei) to the list Al has 
> prepared if there is any benefit to be gained.  It is surprising to find 
> so many people from that area moved into central Poland to the Lodz area, 
> almost all of them were weavers and were of the Catholic faith. 
> Lutheran/Catholic marriages were a fairly common event between Catholic 
> men and Lutheran women.
>
> Thank you to all who responded to my query.
> John Marsch
> -----------------------------------
>
>
>
>  John,
>
>  I agree with Guenther that using the Sudetenland as a reference point is
>  probably not a good thing.
>
>  But it does not answer your question about the point of origin of many 
> German
>  colonists in the parishes of Wladyslawow, Turek, Aleksandrow, Zgierz,
>  Konstantynow, Pabianice, just to name some that I have looked at where 
> the
>  region of
>  origin is X village w Czechach.  I believe I have also seen the 
> nominative
>  case spelling Czechia.  Note that I am referring to information given in
>  marriage
>  records of the 1840's and 1850's.
>
>  Now, I just happen to have a project on the back burner.  I am neither a 
> map
>  guru, nor an expert in political administrative changes.  BUT, I *do* 
> have a
>  list of villages of origin that are associated with Czechia, one that I
>  created
>  as I noticed the high numbers of individuals from this area.  I would 
> like to
>  know where the villages are so that I can work on verifying them in the
>  appropriate genealogical gazetteers.  They are:
>
>  Bennsdorf
>  Bertzdorf (Friedland)
>  Birkstein
>  Braunau
>  Budweis
>  Friedland
>  Fulnak (Moravia)
>  Gablenz
>  Gross-bokken
>  Grosswehl
>  G|nterdorff
>  Heinersdorf (Friedland)
>  Hoefke
>  Karolinsthal
>  Kvniggratz
>  Kvnigshof
>  Kratzau
>  Kreubitzerneudorf
>  Lervin
>  Markersdorf
>  Morgenstern
>  Neustadt
>  Noschwitz (Weinstatek)
>  Pladlebitz
>  Quelisch
>  Reichenau
>  Reichenberg
>  Rumburg
>  Schwabs
>  Warnodorf
>  Wartenburg
>  Weiksdorf
>  Wetzwalde
>  Wolfsberg
>  Wuenschendorf (Friedland)
>  Zwickau
>
>  Guenther, any help would be appreciated!
>
>  Al Muth
>
>  In a message dated 11/22/04 11:26:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
> GHBoehm at ish.de
>  writes:
>
>
>  > gpvjem schrieb:
>  >
>  > >       Can anyone on the Listserve confirm for me that  name 
> "Tchechei",
>  > often referred to as the place of origin of many immigrants in Poland 
> during
>  > the mid 1800s is now known as the Sudetenland are did it cover a larger
>  > geographic area?
>  > >
>  >
>  > John,
>  > in mid 1800 there was no such state or country and the appropriate
>  > region of origin would have been "Boehmen" (in Latin: Bohemia). The
>  > "Sudetenland", a name invented after WWI, just ment the peripheral 
> parts
>  > of Bohemia inhabited by a majority of Germans. Bohemia is part of the
>  > actual Czech Republic which also includes Moravia and the former
>  > "Austrian Silesia". Prior to 1918, Bohemia was a kingdom, Moravia a
>  > margraviate (later on an Austrian crown land), Austrian Silesia an
>  > Austrian crown land either. The name "Tschechei" was also invented 
> after
>  > 1918.
>  >
>  > Guenther
>  > of Hilden, Germany
>  > (born in Reichenberg, Bohemia)
>
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