[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Re: [G-P-V] Tchechei; place-names

[gpvjem]

    In response to Al's email.  My attempt to determine the size and location of Tchechei by relating it to  Sudetenland was obviously incorrect.  However, as result of the many replies received, I have a better picture of the specific area which mentioned so often in the Lutheran Lodz Trinity records
    I could add many place names (from Tchechei) to the list Al has prepared if there is any benefit to be gained.  It is surprising to find so many people from that area moved into central Poland to the Lodz area, almost all of them were weavers and were of the Catholic faith.  Lutheran/Catholic marriages were a fairly common event between Catholic men and Lutheran women.

Thank you to all who responded to my query.
John Marsch
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  John,

  I agree with Guenther that using the Sudetenland as a reference point is
  probably not a good thing.

  But it does not answer your question about the point of origin of many German
  colonists in the parishes of Wladyslawow, Turek, Aleksandrow, Zgierz,
  Konstantynow, Pabianice, just to name some that I have looked at where the
  region of
  origin is X village w Czechach.  I believe I have also seen the nominative
  case spelling Czechia.  Note that I am referring to information given in
  marriage
  records of the 1840's and 1850's.

  Now, I just happen to have a project on the back burner.  I am neither a map
  guru, nor an expert in political administrative changes.  BUT, I *do* have a
  list of villages of origin that are associated with Czechia, one that I
  created
  as I noticed the high numbers of individuals from this area.  I would like to
  know where the villages are so that I can work on verifying them in the
  appropriate genealogical gazetteers.  They are:

  Bennsdorf
  Bertzdorf (Friedland)
  Birkstein
  Braunau
  Budweis
  Friedland
  Fulnak (Moravia)
  Gablenz
  Gross-bokken
  Grosswehl
  G|nterdorff
  Heinersdorf (Friedland)
  Hoefke
  Karolinsthal
  Kvniggratz
  Kvnigshof
  Kratzau
  Kreubitzerneudorf
  Lervin
  Markersdorf
  Morgenstern
  Neustadt
  Noschwitz (Weinstatek)
  Pladlebitz
  Quelisch
  Reichenau
  Reichenberg
  Rumburg
  Schwabs
  Warnodorf
  Wartenburg
  Weiksdorf
  Wetzwalde
  Wolfsberg
  Wuenschendorf (Friedland)
  Zwickau

  Guenther, any help would be appreciated!

  Al Muth

  In a message dated 11/22/04 11:26:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, GHBoehm at ish.de
  writes:


  > gpvjem schrieb:
  >
  > >       Can anyone on the Listserve confirm for me that  name "Tchechei",
  > often referred to as the place of origin of many immigrants in Poland during
  > the mid 1800s is now known as the Sudetenland are did it cover a larger
  > geographic area?
  > >
  >
  > John,
  > in mid 1800 there was no such state or country and the appropriate
  > region of origin would have been "Boehmen" (in Latin: Bohemia). The
  > "Sudetenland", a name invented after WWI, just ment the peripheral parts
  > of Bohemia inhabited by a majority of Germans. Bohemia is part of the
  > actual Czech Republic which also includes Moravia and the former
  > "Austrian Silesia". Prior to 1918, Bohemia was a kingdom, Moravia a
  > margraviate (later on an Austrian crown land), Austrian Silesia an
  > Austrian crown land either. The name "Tschechei" was also invented after
  > 1918.
  >
  > Guenther
  > of Hilden, Germany
  > (born in Reichenberg, Bohemia)

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