[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Powiat maps of Russian Poland

[Richard Benert]

Peter wrote:

 Also, I understand that Germany didn't exist until 1871 and any reference to
> it prior to that time is incorrect.  Whereas, it should be listed as Prussia.


Peter,

Jerry correctly points out that Prussia was only a part of "Germany" before
1871.  But I would like to relieve you of any hesitancy you may have developed
to avoid speaking of the German lands before 1870 as "Germany".  Of course there
was no POLITICAL entity called "Germany" before that date, but people had for
centuries been referring to the area as Germany, Germania, Deutschland,
Allemagne, etc (pick your language) without batting an eye.  Somehow the
incorrectness of referring to a political Germany before 1870 has expanded into
a blanket taboo against referring to the AREA as "Germany".  But if folks in
1700 could do it, why can't we?  We only have to be careful how we use the term.
It would not be wrong, for example, for Jerry to say his Hemminger ancestors
came from Germany.  It just wouldn't be nearly as accurate or as helpful as
saying they were from The Kingdom of Wuerttemburg.

At least that's how I see it!

Dick Benert
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Fischer" <westphalia-ranch at msn.com>
To: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>; "Jerry Frank"
<franklyspeaking at shaw.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Powiat maps of Russian Poland


> Thanks Jerry,
> As always your information is very valuable.  The maps are terrific.
>
> For some time I have been working on a country/government timeline on the
> Kalisch-Turek-Konin-Wladyslowow-Kolo-etc. region by studying maps in an effort
> to have my ancestors' records historically correct.
>
> Reading various on-line information of people's ancestors, people invariably
> interchange Germany, Prussia, Posen, Poznan, Poland, Russia, and so on.  Which
> makes it somewhat confusing to say the least, and historically incorrect.
>
> I was wondering if my conclusions are correct, or if they can be further
> clarified.  What I have for this region is as follows:
>
> 1688 to 1793 - Poland
> 1793 to 1806 - South Prussia
> 1807 to 1919 - Russia-Poland
> 1919 to 1939 - Poland
> 1939 to 1945 - Germany
> 1945 to present - Poland
>
> Also, I understand that Germany didn't exist until 1871 and any reference to
> it prior to that time is incorrect.  Whereas, it should be listed as Prussia.
>
> Any input or corrections from you, or from anyone on this List, would be
> greatly appreciated.  Thank you.
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter Fischer
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Jerry Frank<mailto:franklyspeaking at shaw.ca>
>   To:
> ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org<mailto:ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sgge
> e.org>
>   Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 10:17 PM
>   Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Powiat maps of Russian Poland
>
>
>   Sometimes it helps our genealogical research to know the civil boundaries
>   of smaller administrative districts in Russian Poland.  This website:
>
>   http://www.pgsa.org/PowiatMapList.pdf<http://www.pgsa.org/PowiatMapList.pdf
> >
>
>   will give you first an overview map of the Gubernia (provinces) in Russian
>   Poland in 1907, also showing the smaller Powiat (municipalities) within
>   them.  You can then click on the names of individual Powiats for detailed
>   maps of same.
>
>   These maps are not detailed enough to show all the villages but you can at
>   least get a very good idea of where the boundaries were.
>
>
>
>
>
>   Jerry Frank - Calgary, Alberta
>   FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca<mailto:FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca>
>
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