[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Kanwischer family in Canada

Sun Apr 3 17:26:23 PDT 2016

Hello Manfred,
There were 3 Kannwischer males that were in Canada/U.S.A. affliated with The 
North American Baptist Church,
-Adolf Emil, born 17/11/1908 born in Poland, last address Houston, TX
-Arthur 11/07/1911 born in Poland, last address Kinsginton, PA
-Reinhold, born 12/09/1909 born in Russia, last address Calgary, AB.  This 
info is from N.A. B. Seminary directory. Feel free to email if you think 
there may be a connection.  Corinne Arnold, mcjr.arnold at sasktel.net.


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>   1. KANWISCHER (Lodz area) (Manfred Hensel)
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>   3. Re: KANWISCHER (Lodz area) (Manfred Hensel)
>   4. Re: 1862 Mariage: Ludwig Kanwischer Hoffmann & Emilia Roch>
>      Her mother was a Sampert (Manfred Hensel)
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> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 02:09:15 +0200
> From: Manfred Hensel <manfred.hensel at koeln.de>
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] KANWISCHER (Lodz area)
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> Hello fellow researchers,
> I?m new to the list.
>
> My research covers the area and villages around Lodz, Konstantinow,
> Tomaszow and Piotrokow,
> the time between 1835 and 1915 (maybe 1685 to 1835 too)
> and family names KANWISCHER, BEBEL (B?BEL), ROCH, SAMPERT and some other.
>
> A very short overview:
>
> Ludwig KANWISCHER (b 1840 in Pawlikowice / Pabianice)
> (father: Gottfried, mother: Julianne OR Henriette OR whatsoever HOFFMANN)
> married to (in 1862 in Drzazgowa Wola, a small  village south-east of
> Pabianice)
> Auguste Emilie ROCH
> (Emilie ROCH was born in 1846 in Podolia, while her parents (Moritz ROCH
> and Marianne SAMPERT)
> stayed there between 1841 and 1860, members of ROCH and SAMPERT family
> may have stayed there
> or may have moved further to South Russia or abroad).
>
> The known children:
> 1. Eduard Wilhelm (b 1864 in Drzazgowa Wola)
> (married to Ernestine W?LFLE in 1889, children known, no further
> informations about their further life)
>
> 2. Josef (b 1870, unsure, no more informations)
>
> 3. Wilhelm Robert (b 1873 in Drzazgowa Wola)
> (married to Rosina BRUST in 1898, children known, no further
> informations about their further life)
>
> 4. Julius (b 1875 in Drzazgowa Wola, my Greatgrandfather, d 1954)
> (married to Olga B?BEL in 1901,  12 children between 1902 and 1924,
> grandmother Wanda was the 4th.)
>
> 5. Johann (b 1877 in Drzazgowa Wola, d 1888 in Binkow / Belchatow)
>
> 6. Karl (b 1886 in Binkow / Belchatow, d 1907)
>
> Remark:
> about the time before 1840 I do have a lot of hints and even facts
> concerning KANWISCHER pointing to the north
> from Lodz to Posen, but just around 1835-1840 there is big whole, some
> dates, which do not fit together because
> the one or the other must be faulty.
>
> My Greatgrandfather Julius moved from Lodz area to Brandenburg with his
> family in around 1915 because of
> the lack of employment and bad perspective in Poland.
> This family, with most of the BEBEL, the parents-in-law and the
> brothers/sisters-in-law,
> has been the only KANWISCHER moving from Lodz before 1945 as I know.
>
> Even I do not have any evidence that other KANWISCHER may have left this
> said area
> I do not have any clue about KANWISCHERs after the above described time
> except the above mentioned
> Julius family.
>
> I would like to get contact to other researchers preferable with
> KANWISCHER relations from the
> said area.
>
> Manfred
>
> -- 
> Manfred Hensel
> 51107 K?ln
>
>
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> The Listserv is backup.
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> It appears it took a "Spring Break" too.
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> Rose Ingram
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> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 12:15:02 +0200
> From: Manfred Hensel <manfred.hensel at koeln.de>
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] KANWISCHER (Lodz area)
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> Am 03.04.2016 um 04:01 schrieb George Shoning:
>> Reinhold Kanwisher.  He was born about 1909 in Gabrufka or perhaps 
>> Gaberowka, Volhynia
> George,
> since I?m not having any link to Volhynia till now I will take your
> advice to my collection of "unknown but maybe related".
> Thank you!
>
> Manfred
>
> -- 
> Manfred Hensel
> Werntgenstr. 23
> 51107 K?ln
>
> Tel.: +49 (0)221 2792947
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> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 13:27:24 +0200
> From: Manfred Hensel <manfred.hensel at koeln.de>
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] 1862 Mariage: Ludwig Kanwischer
> Hoffmann & Emilia Roch> Her mother was a Sampert
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> Am 03.04.2016 um 05:12 schrieb Robin Paul:
>> You may already know about the website
>> http://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/
>>
> Robin,
> yes, you are right.
> I?m dealing with this database already some years and it is without any
> doubt a very useful collection.
> But one should keep in mind:
> the index is far away from being complete, it doesn?cover all records
> which are online accessable, and
> the index contains errors because it is handmade and the handwriting is
> sometimes "challenging"in a lot of records.
> (who is looking for "SAMPERT" should also look for "LAMPERT" because of
> a special old german writing of
> the leading "S").
> This is absolutely no criticism, it is a huge work, a lot of volunteers
> are doing, mostly polish people.
>
> Not knowing the said limitations causes following danger:
> looking for a family name without any hit could cause the opinion, that
> on have to look for somewhere else,
> but on the other hand getting one or some more hits could even cause the
> opinion: ok, that?s all, no more relations.
> Both can be wrong.
> Just now, since some days I?m looking through the records of "Pabianice
> evang." Births 1870-1879, 1880-1889,
> all in kyrillic letters, no name index at the end of each year and no
> entry in "geneteka", but luckily each year
> one or two KANWISCHER children and some more with KANWISCHER as mothers
> name.
> The same matter with some years of Lodz Trinitatis Church and some more.
>
> Your hint on "ROCH, Moritz" is correct.
> The daughter "Auguste Emilie" is my greatgreatgrandmother, the wife of
> Ludwig KANWISCHER.
>
> The mother of August Moritz was Friederike THIERFELD(b 1786, d
> 15.01.1842 Tomaszow),
> the father Johann August ROCH (b 27.March 1786, d 02.May 1853 Tomaszow).
> Marriage on 26.Nov. 1809 in Friedrichstadt / Dresden.
> The origin of this family is nearby Dresden in Kingdom Saxonia, I?m back
> till 1749 (Johann Christoph ROCH).
>
> The origin of SAMPERT (SAMPER) is North Bohemia, I?m back till ~1686
>
> Manfred
>
> -- 
> Manfred Hensel
> Werntgenstr. 23
> 51107 K?ln
>
> Tel.: +49 (0)221 2792947
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