[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Fwd: train stations in Zhitomir oblast
Charlotte Dubay
hoeserhistory at aol.com
Tue Sep 17 15:26:00 PDT 2013
MESSAGE #1.
-----Original Message-----
From: DANWWAGNER <DANWWAGNER at aol.com>
To: hoeserhistory <hoeserhistory at aol.com>
Sent: Tue, Sep 17, 2013 8:32 am
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] train stations in Zhitomir oblast
Charlotte,
I assume you have this photo of the Zhitomir train station. Don't know the year, but those are horse-drawn wagons. My notes call this the "old Zhitomir train station." (NOTE: photo was included.)
Dan
MESSAGE #2.
In a message dated 9/17/2013 12:21:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, hoeserhistory at aol.com writes:
DanW.Wagner sent me a photo of train station in Zhitomir:
Dan
Yes, that IS the picture that I have. HORSES?? and I thought it was a "regular" train. hah.
I just read the following this morning, on Wiki:
The Tsarskoye Selo Railway line was officially opened on 30 October 1837, when an 8-carriage train was hauled by a steam locomotive between Saint Petersburg and Tsarskoye Selo. Until the construction of the Moscow – Saint Petersburg Railway in 1851, it was the only passenger train line in Russia.[3] In 1899 it was merged into the Moscow-Windau-Rybinsk Railways and now forms part of the Oktyabrskaya Railway.
>From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I found nothing on when the ENGINE pulled trains came to Volhynia. Probably need to go to the library.
Guess I will try a search there to see what I can find on trains. Real trains!
Charlotte DuBay
hoeserhistory at aol.com
MESSAGE #3.
-----Original Message-----
From: DANWWAGNER <DANWWAGNER at aol.com>
To: hoeserhistory <hoeserhistory at aol.com>
Sent: Tue, Sep 17, 2013 3:17 pm
Subject: Re: Zhitomir trains, and best URL for huge free library in USA
Charlotte,
I didn't mean that the horses were pulling the train cars. I only meant that horse-drawn wagons were picking up passengers and freight from the rail stations. That's an indication that the station is old.
Sorry for misleading you.
Dan
MESSAGE #4. at 5 PM.
Gotta laugh! Talk about being "concrete"!
Well, I had read that horses did indeed pull the early "carriage" cars, so I just ASSUMED that is what you meant! Hah. The photo was taken in the 1880s, and since my grandmother left in 1894, I am again ASSUMING that they left from Zhitomir. (not a word about the jokes on the term "assume")... Their last baby was born just weeks before in Novohrad-Volynsk, and others were baptized in Heimthal, so it looks logical that they left from Zhitomir.
Found nothing on the time line of the development of Russian trains, except for my initial post.
There has to be a train buff out there SOME where!
Charlotte DuBay
hoeserhistory at aol.com
In a message dated 9/17/2013 8:13:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, hoeserhistory at aol.com writes:
Hello listers,
My grandmother's family left Heimthal in 1894. They took the train to Bremen.
I don't know where they boarded the train.
I have seen photos of the "new" train station at Zhitomir, but I was wondering
how many towns had stations -
or if in those early days you had to leave from the Zhitomir station.
Is there a list somewhere of train stations in Zhitomir / all of Volhynia?
I had read that the railroad development in Russia was "behind" other
European countries - with availability coming later for Russian travelers.
Thanks for any leads.
Charlotte DuBay
hoeserhistory at aol.com
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