[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] August and Lydia Kotke

[Karl Krueger]

The Lublin database shows at least two Betker families that lived in Tomaszowka. One was Gustav Betker & Emilie Schlecht with a son born in 1913 and Friedrich Betker & Wanda Bloch with several children in the 1920s-30s. In marriage records Friedrich's parents were Wilhelm Betker & Rosalie Krause. Do either Gustav or Wilhelm show up as potential fathers to Lydia?

You will most likely not find Lydia's birth record in the Lublin records because she was born prior to WW I in a town that reported to Kamien where records were destroyed in a fire. Chelm should still have records from the church in Kamien but you can only go there in person to look at it.

Karl



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 From: Emilie Whitson <this_is_emilie at hotmail.com>
To: garyw555 at gmail.com; ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org 
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:09 AM
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] August and Lydia Kotke
 


I have found that Lydia's maiden name was Betker. It was her daughter, Emilie Kotke (Otke) that sent away for her birth certificate to Chelm- (I think she needed it for a passport later in life) She was born in about 1908.


> Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 17:27:21 -0700
> From: garyw555 at gmail.com
> To: this_is_emilie at hotmail.com
> CC: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] August and Lydia Kotke
> 
> Emilie,
> 
> I do not know if I am correct in what follows regarding your family, but 
> there is a Tomaszowski powiat south of Chelm.   That is equivalent to a 
> county in the USA.   If that is the place referred to in the ship list, 
> then that is like saying that they were from a county in the USA.   That 
> narrows if down from all of Poland, but it is still a large area to poke 
> in hay stacks.
> 
> I am not saying that you will not find what you seek online, but most of 
> Poland is not yet online so far as indexed records.   There are lots of 
> Kotke surnames in the Lublin records in the database currently being 
> created (see 
> http://sggee.org/research/parishes/lublin_records/lublinsearchinstruct.html), 
> but you will have to provide some additional data to see if your family 
> is really there- I do not see them in the posted data.   Was Lydia also 
> a Kotke by birth?   If not, what was her maiden name?
> 
> I see Lydia and her children in the St. Albans border crossings and the 
> Halifax passenger lists as well, but neither of those lists indicates 
> the name of the town of residence in Poland.   I will send you those 
> lists separately.
> 
> You say that a child got their birth certificate from Chelm.   What was 
> the child's name and birth date?
> 
> Gary Warner
> 
> On 5/14/2012 2:49 PM, Emilie Whitson wrote:
> > Thank you- I see the record and Ancestry has translated it as Tomaschewka, but I've found in the Gazetteer there is a Tomaszowka, Chelm, Lubelskie so I am going to assume this may be the correct village. Any ideas where I can go from here online?                           
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