[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 108, Issue 20
Albert Muth
albertmuth734 at gmail.com
Mon May 14 14:32:35 PDT 2012
Fortunately, I can see their arrivals, as you say in 1910 and 1913.
I also see them in 1916 in Winnipeg as Otky (misindexed as otry, or
something awful like that)
Lydia sailed from Hamburg; the departure shows her birthplace that
that of the four children as being identical. Here is the link
from the Family History Center, I hope it comes
through:
http://search.ancestryinstitution.com/browse/view.aspx?dbid=1068&iid=K_1828_080587-0569&pid=2799528&ssrc=&fn=Lydia&ln=Kotke&st=g
It will be on the right page, she is the fourth person.
To find this using a paid subscription, the search items that I used were:
Name: Lydia Kotke
born 1886 Russia
Arrival 1913
Departure: Hamburg, Germany
Have fun deciphering the place of birth!
al muth
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Emilie Whitson
<this_is_emilie at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
> Hello all, Looking for assistance and information on my G G Grandparents
> August and Lydia Kotke (changed to Otke when arrived in Canada). August
> born about 1876, Lydia 1886. I have no knowledge of who their parents were
> and where they came from other than to say that one of the daughters was
> later able to get a copy of her birth certificate from Chelm, in Poland. My
> Great Grandfather, Julius, was their eldest child. August arrived in
> Canada in 1910, Lydia came in 1913 with 4 children. I have been
> unsuccessful in searches of the databases on the website and in
> members-only, but perhaps there is something I am missing. Thank you,
> Emilie Whitson
>
>
>
> > From: ger-poland-volhynia-request at eclipse.sggee.org
> > Subject: Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 108, Issue 20
> > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 12:00:02 -0700
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> > 1. Diefenbacher auf GedBas (Eveline Tiefenbach)
> > 2. Villiage Help (Eveline Tiefenbach)
> > 3. Re: Villiage Help (G?nther B?hm)
> > 4. Re: Przasnysz Parish-Adam Heller family (kitchur at mts.net)
> > 5. Krause & Bielitz in Sierpc/Lipno parishes (Linda Marks Pauling)
> > 6. Re: Przasnysz Parish-Adam Heller family (shoning at q.com)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 15:33:29 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: Eveline Tiefenbach <liebeemmi at aol.com>
> > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Diefenbacher auf GedBas
> > To: pommern-l at genealogy.net, ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > Message-ID:
> > <8CEFF566866339E-1378-1895D at webmail-stg-d12.sysops.aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Hallo
> >
> >
> > ich wahr auf der suche nach Johann Friedrich Diefenbacher der
> ausgewandert ist 1805 Kolonie Neu W?rttemberg, Tkaczew, Warszawa, Polska,
> nun auf GedBas in der KB von Ozorkow hatte ich ihn gefunden und noch andere
> Diefenbacher.
> >
> >
> > Ich suche info zur:
> >
> >
> > Johann Diefenbacher oo 1827 Margarete Hirter
> > Kinder:
> > Johann August Diefenbacher *1828
> > Karl Friedrich Diefenbacher *1830
> >
> >
> > es ist m?glich das ihre kinder in die Volhynia gezogen sind
> >
> >
> > was on the search for Johann Friedrich Diefenbacher who emigrated 1805
> Kolonie Neu W?rttemberg, Tkaczew, Warszawa, Polska, on GedBas in the Church
> Records Ozorkow I had found him and more Diefenbacher.
> >
> >
> > Looking for more info on:
> >
> >
> > Johann Diefenbacher oo 1827 Margarete Hirter
> > Children:
> > Johann August Diefenbacher *1828
> > Karl Friedrich Diefenbacher *1830
> >
> >
> > it is possible that there children left for the Vohlynia
> >
> >
> > Danke
> > Regards
> > Eveline Tiefenbach
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 07:05:44 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: Eveline Tiefenbach <liebeemmi at aol.com>
> > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Villiage Help
> > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > Message-ID: <8CEFFD8A4478461-E54-1ECBF at webmail-stg-d15.sysops.aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> >
> > Hello ti the list
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Need help with finding Deutsch-Lamsk, Odessa, where is this villiage or
> is it not a villiage
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Eveline
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 13:24:27 +0200
> > From: G?nther B?hm <GHBoehm at ish.de>
> > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Villiage Help
> > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > Message-ID: <4FB0EB6B.4060407 at ish.de>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> >
> > Am 14.05.2012 13:05, schrieb Eveline Tiefenbach:
> > > Hello ti the list
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Need help with finding Deutsch-Lamsk, Odessa, where is this villiage
> or is it not a villiage
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Eveline
> >
> > Hello Eveline,
> > trying to guess:
> >
> > Lymans'ke, Oblast Odessa, Ukraine 67452
> > [?????????, ??????? ???????, ???????]
> >
> > Lymanske included the German colonies Selz, Kandel and Baden.
> >
> > G?nther
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 11:50:49 -0500
> > From: <kitchur at mts.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Przasnysz Parish-Adam Heller family
> > To: <garyw555 at gmail.com>, sggee mail list
> > <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> > Message-ID: <SNT140-W26A0002CE723F7627B59CFAF1A0 at phx.gbl>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> >
> > these names Heller - Grams - any chance that they might have been
> spelted as Hiller and Grems/Grimes? and would
> > Tiefensee, Germany be anywhere near this Przasynsz parish?
> > the in laws had family left behind somewhere in Germany father was
> Eltern George Hiller + Marianna Grems/Grimes
> > its been a family line that I'm not having much luck with tracing.
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 08:53:15 -0700
> > > From: garyw555 at gmail.com
> > > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Przasnysz Parish-Adam Heller family
> > >
> > > Joyce,
> > >
> > > None of the names you mention below are my family in the Przasnysz
> > > parish, so far as I presently know. I do have Grams, but they are in
> > > the adjoining Nowy Dwor parish.
> > >
> > > There are many more records that I have not yet fully extracted for
> this
> > > parish. Do you need specific records?
> > >
> > > I will send you a separate history of the Przasynsz parish, just off
> the
> > > presses, from George Shoning.
> > >
> > > Gary Warner
> > >
> > > On 5/11/2012 4:19 AM, Joyce E. wrote:
> > > > Mr. G. Warner,
> > > >
> > > > With the generous help of a fellow SGGEE member we were
> able to trace part of my line back
> > > > to relatives in the Prasnysz parish records you provided to the
> SGGEE parish list.
> > > >
> > > > Some of the lines are Heller-Grams-Floeting-Lang. Are any of these
> lines connected to you?
> > > >
> > > > I am also trying to find some history on the Przasnysz Parish.
> Thank you for any help in this matter.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Joyce
> > > >
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 10:03:32 -0700
> > From: "Linda Marks Pauling" <lmpauling at utech.net>
> > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Krause & Bielitz in Sierpc/Lipno
> > parishes
> > To: "SGGEE Mailing List" <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> > Message-ID: <CA3DE3DB800E420E8576B65FFFDD2251 at LINDASTOY>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > I have been trying to help Doris Krause Stienen in Berlin search for her
> family, but she is not able, so far, to get earlier than 1886 when the
> filmed records for Sierpc end, and Lipno films end even earlier. She has
> worked for the first time last Friday at the EZAV in Berlin and we hope she
> will find some information there. This is all new to her including trying
> to read the Polish.
> >
> > This is what we know:
> > Martin Bielitz and Karoline Lembke are the parents of:
> > Lydia Bielitz (her grandmother) b. 1900
> > Emma Bielitz b. 1895
> > Emelia Bielitz b. 1888
> > all are born in Lipiny in Lipno parish. I found Emelia in the Lipno
> confirmation records (1865-1906), but the others are too young.
> >
> > Her grandfather is Gustav Krause b. 1895 in Gozdy, Sierpc parish. He is
> married 1917 to Lydia Bielitz and dies 1945 near Charkov, Russia. She does
> not know the parents of Gustav. She had searched at EZAV last Friday for
> his birth. I suggested when she goes to EZAV this Friday that she search
> for their marriage. Hopefully it was in Lipno and not Sierpc as Sierpc
> records are not in EZAV. I also suggested the parish of Dobrzyn on the
> Wisla as it is quite close to Lipiny.
> >
> >
> > Lydia's sister is married to Ferdinand Krause who was probably born in
> Bendzen se of Sierpc. She knows that Ferdinand is a relative of her
> grandfather Gustav but she does not know if he may be a brother or cousin.
> She also knows that the parents of Ferdinand are Heinrich Krause and
> Florentine Mueller.
> >
> > Ferdinand had 2 brothers who came to the US, Adam and Julius. I did find
> the immigration, census, death, descendants of Adam, but no sure trace of
> Julius. Adam's locations are Hartford and Meriden, CT, with an obituary as
> recent as 2011 for Adam's daughter-in-law age 99.
> >
> > Doris also knows that siblings of both her grandparents, Gustav Krause
> and Lydia b. Bielitz emigrated to Canada and the US, living about 2 hours
> from Hanover, Ontario; Omaha, Nebraska; and Connecticut. She knows they
> visited her family in Germany in the 1960's-70's and remembers the first
> names Erica, Ewald, and Herbert, but does not know if they are Bielitz or
> Krause.
> >
> > I know that Rose and Earl have both corresponded with Doris, and I did
> suggest (as did Rose) that she may want to join sggee. I also checked the
> data on sggee, but do not see anything that looks like it is her family.
> Does any of this sound familiar to anyone else? Or do you have any
> suggestions I might share with her or try myself?
> >
> > Linda Marks Pauling in California
> >
> > "... for such a time as this..." Esther 4:14
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 13:43:07 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: shoning at q.com
> > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Przasnysz Parish-Adam Heller family
> > To: kitchur at mts.net, ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > Message-ID:
> > <
> 955782060.343601.1337017387370.JavaMail.root at md05.quartz.synacor.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > " . . .would Tiefensee, Germany be anywhere near this Przasynsz parish?"
> >
> > The only Tiefensee that I can find is on the northern border (north of
> Pieni?zno) of today's Poland and Russia; it is called Gl?bock in Polish. It
> is far from Przasnysz.
> >
> > George Shoning
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: kitchur at mts.net
> > To: garyw555 at gmail.com, "sggee mail list" <
> ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 10:50:49 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Przasnysz Parish-Adam Heller family
> >
> >
> > these names Heller - Grams - any chance that they might have been
> spelted as Hiller and Grems/Grimes? and would
> > Tiefensee, Germany be anywhere near this Przasynsz parish?
> > the in laws had family left behind somewhere in Germany father was
> Eltern George Hiller + Marianna Grems/Grimes
> > its been a family line that I'm not having much luck with tracing.
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 08:53:15 -0700
> > > From: garyw555 at gmail.com
> > > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Przasnysz Parish-Adam Heller family
> > >
> > > Joyce,
> > >
> > > None of the names you mention below are my family in the Przasnysz
> > > parish, so far as I presently know. I do have Grams, but they are in
> > > the adjoining Nowy Dwor parish.
> > >
> > > There are many more records that I have not yet fully extracted for
> this
> > > parish. Do you need specific records?
> > >
> > > I will send you a separate history of the Przasynsz parish, just off
> the
> > > presses, from George Shoning.
> > >
> > > Gary Warner
> > >
> > > On 5/11/2012 4:19 AM, Joyce E. wrote:
> > > > Mr. G. Warner,
> > > >
> > > > With the generous help of a fellow SGGEE member we were
> able to trace part of my line back
> > > > to relatives in the Prasnysz parish records you provided to the
> SGGEE parish list.
> > > >
> > > > Some of the lines are Heller-Grams-Floeting-Lang. Are any of these
> lines connected to you?
> > > >
> > > > I am also trying to find some history on the Przasnysz Parish.
> Thank you for any help in this matter.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Joyce
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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