[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 168, Issue 9

Thu May 11 06:13:57 PDT 2017

Sieg and Edelgard,

If you look on the following map, you will see Kol. Istrow between 
Dorohusk/Dorogusk and Turka: 
http://www.mapywig.org/m/German_maps/series/126K_Russland/Reihe_XX_Blatt_2_Cholm_loc.jpg

This map is German but has some influence of Russian spellings in 
western script. In looking at the Lublin births database, I see that 
Wystrow is used as a spelling in the late 1860s and 1870s. That means 
the records were in Cyrillic. The village names were spelled 
phonetically in Russian which does not easily deal with that I/J sound 
at the beginning of a word. The larger villages of Dorohusk and Turka 
alternated as gmina villages. After more investigation of other maps, 
Frank Stewner determined that Istrow/Iskrow/Wystrow were the same small 
German colony which disappeared.

Sigrid Pohl Perry

On 5/11/2017 3:50 AM, Edelgard Strobel wrote:
> SGGEE Lublin village list shows two Wystrows
>
> Wystrow Dorohusk Chelm Lublin
> and
> Wystrow Turka Chelm Lublin
>
> https://www.sggee.org/research/parishes/lublin_records/lublin_villages_list.pdf
>
> In the Congress-Poland gazetteer there is only one that appears as
> Istrow (Iskrow/Wystrow), Chelm, Lubelskie, Poland
> 510825
> 234822
> Istrów
>
> https://www.sggee.org/research/Gazetteer_Poland.pdf
>
> Edelgard
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> Russian translation, location Wystrow.
> Does anyone know where Wystrow is?
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> 1. Fwd: Russian translation of birth record
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> Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 19:01:36 -0400
> From: heinrichrichter1 at aol.com
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> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Fwd: Russian translation of birth
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> Hello Group:
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> I posted this page earlier with a request for a Polish translation. I have since been told that the birth record is written in Russian.
> This my grandmother Amalie Geschtoff birth record, Index Notes say she is illegitimate and father is Martin Koch. Her mother, also Amalie Gerschtoff,, later married Peter Lockstein, and My Amalie took the name of Lockstein until she married Gustav Richter in  Jelowice, Poland Volhynia.
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> Any help and/or suggestions are appreciated.
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> Best regards,
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> Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 11:14:47 +0200
> From: "Edelgard Strobel" <udo-edelgard at freenet.de>
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> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Fwd: Russian translation of birth
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> Hello Heinrich,
>
> my short translation:
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>
> Lublin, Feb. 15, 1871
> Andreas Kramer, 32, colonist of Wystrow
> witnesses: Gottfried Klappstein, 39 and Gottlieb Fenske, 26, both colonists
> of Wystrow
> * yesterday at three o'clock in the afternoon
> Amalie
> of unknown father and married Amalie Koch, nee Gerschtoff, 38, wife of the
> soldier Martin Koch, a few years ago excommunicated from his place of
> residence.
> Godparents: the witnesses and Karoline Fenske, wife of the second witness.
>
> Regards from Germany,
>
> Edelgard
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:01 AM
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Fwd: Russian translation of birth record
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>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Group:
>>
>>
>> I posted this page earlier with a request for a Polish translation. I have
>> since been told that the birth record is written in Russian.
>> This my grandmother Amalie Geschtoff birth record, Index Notes say she is
>> illegitimate and father is Martin Koch. Her mother, also Amalie
>> Gerschtoff,, later married Peter Lockstein, and My Amalie took the name of
>> Lockstein until she married Gustav Richter in Jelowice, Poland Volhynia.
>>
>>
>> Any help and/or suggestions are appreciated.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Heinrich Richter
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G99H-C9FC-V?i=45&wc=QZW1-3T1%3A1588932888%2C1588932897%2C1588932896%2C1588932894&cc=2564996https:
>
> Error: Page Not Found — FamilySearch.org
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> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Fwd: Russian translation of birth
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> Hello all, I WILL be able to fit the German genealogy conference into my schedule! Unfortunately, I had deleted all the information about it. Help!
> Bonnie Mueller
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> From: "Edelgard Strobel" <udo-edelgard at freenet.de>
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 4:14:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Fwd: Russian translation of birth record
>
> Hello Heinrich,
>
> my short translation:
>
>
> Lublin, Feb. 15, 1871
> Andreas Kramer, 32, colonist of Wystrow
> witnesses: Gottfried Klappstein, 39 and Gottlieb Fenske, 26, both colonists
> of Wystrow
> * yesterday at three o'clock in the afternoon
> Amalie
> of unknown father and married Amalie Koch, nee Gerschtoff, 38, wife of the
> soldier Martin Koch, a few years ago excommunicated from his place of
> residence.
> Godparents: the witnesses and Karoline Fenske, wife of the second witness.
>
> Regards from Germany,
>
> Edelgard
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <heinrichrichter1 at aol.com>
> To: <ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:01 AM
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Fwd: Russian translation of birth record
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Group:
>>
>>
>> I posted this page earlier with a request for a Polish translation. I have
>> since been told that the birth record is written in Russian.
>> This my grandmother Amalie Geschtoff birth record, Index Notes say she is
>> illegitimate and father is Martin Koch. Her mother, also Amalie
>> Gerschtoff,, later married Peter Lockstein, and My Amalie took the name of
>> Lockstein until she married Gustav Richter in Jelowice, Poland Volhynia.
>>
>>
>> Any help and/or suggestions are appreciated.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Heinrich Richter
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G99H-C9FC-V?i=45&wc=QZW1-3T1%3A1588932888%2C1588932897%2C1588932896%2C1588932894&cc=2564996https:
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