[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Search death record an birth registrationTimm
Amy Caswell
a.caswell at att.net
Mon Oct 12 20:16:14 PDT 2015
On familysearch.org a marriage record for Gustave Fielder shows his parents as Gustave Fielder and Bertha Bartz. Says he was born in Ontario. Amy
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> On Oct 12, 2015, at 7:48 PM, Cathy Walters <walters.cathy at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Does anyone know who's Gustave Fiedlers parents are? Sorry coming in late & I know it maybe a stretch ! I am missing 7- 1/2 siblings to my great grandmother Anne Louise Fedder b.1849 who's father Carl Fedder remarried after her mothers death circa 1850's -80's to her sister-in-law, Caroline Mietzner. They had children: Gustav,August,Caroline,Ernestine,Albert,Emma & Reinhold Fedder. (unknown is their info,full names or went)
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> I know that basia.famula.pl has Timm's, Bartz's & Poznan project-those surnames are familiar. My aunt said they never heard nor thought they ever made it to America that anyone knows of. Our family lived in Wischin Hauland, Kolmar,Posen,Germany/Wyszyniki,Chodziez,Poland-church-ed at Gramsdorf/Bukowiec, Obornik, unforgettably-those books only few years exists.
> Asking for a wing & a prayer-of a brick wall to brake down-Cathy,SE, Minnesota
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> ALWAYS A ROSE
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> On Monday, October 12, 2015 5:10 PM, Amy Caswell <a.caswell at att.net> wrote:
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> Ilona,
> Do you know when and where Louise married Michael Timm? I have looked for a burial I Buffalo but haven't found one so far. I am assuming that since the probate was filed on September 22,1899 that Michael probably died in September. I went back and looked and it did say he died without a will and that this document allowed Louise Tim ( that is how it was spelled on the document) to dispose of his estate/ goods. It looks like she went to Ontario to be close to family before she had the baby.
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> > On Oct 12, 2015, at 5:31 PM, Helen Gillespie <gilleh23 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Ilona,
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> > To follow up on Amy and Rose's response, the birth registration is actually
> > a LATE registration for Michael Timm's birth in 1935 - a late birth
> > registration sworn to by an uncle Gustav Fiedler that he was in the home at
> > the time of the birth and that the father was deceased. Note also that if
> > Gustav Fiedler Sr. is 38 years older than the child (in 1935), he too would
> > have been a child. The 1901 census for Humberstone Township, County of
> > Welland in Ontario shows both Bartz and Fiedler families and there are two
> > Gustave Fiedlers: father and son aged 40 and 9. So in 1899, he would have
> > been 7.
> >
> > http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/View.jsp?id=107368&highlight=34&desc=1901+Census+of+Canada+page+containing+Gustav+Fiedle%3F
> >
> > Gustave Fiedler Jr. was born in 1891 and his mother's maiden name was Bartz:
> > https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FM7D-X4W
> > so they are related by marriage.
> >
> > In searching for a marriage of Louisa Bartz and Michael Timm, I found:
> > curiously, a *Louisa Bartz of Buffalo and a Sidney Leonard Reilly also of
> > Buffalo *were married in TORONTO, Ontario, Canada in *1911*. She is aged
> > 25. (in 1899 she would have been about 13) Note the unusual disclaimer re
> > their marriage in Toronto rather than in Buffalo. (Buffalo is about 160 km
> > or 100 miles from Toronto.) Her father is listed as Fred Bartz. Louisa and
> > her Bartz family are found in the *1900* US census in Buffalo where she is
> > listed as age 14. But no baby Michael. A teenage mother? Did she give
> > him away?
> >
> > https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KS83-KQV
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> > https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MSXV-TGX
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> > Is this Louisa Bartz who married Sidney Reilly in 1911 perhaps the mother
> > of Michael Timm?
> >
> > Helen
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> >>> On Oct 12, 2015, at 4:53 AM, "ilonatimm at t-online.de" <
> >> ilonatimm at t-online.de> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> who can help me?
> >>
> >> I'm searching the death record of Michael Timm, died in September 1899
> >> in Buffalo. The wife was Ludowika / Louise, born Bartz.
> >>
> >> By Michael Timm and his wife Louise, I'm still looking for the birth
> >> registration of the child Michael Heinrich Timm in December 1899
> >> Baptism also in December 1899. The birth is hard to read, Humberstone
> >> could be near to Buffalo.
> >>
> >> If the data is perhaps online? Where can I find them?
> >>
> >> Many thanks for the help.
> >>
> >> Ilona Timm
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