[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Tschichanowitz/Ciechanowiec

[Marcia Ritke-Momose]

Paul,

This is good to know information. Thank you!
You've been a great help.

Marcia



> On Mar 4, 2015, at 4:05 PM, Paul Rakow <paul.rakow at cantab.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Marcia,
> 
>   Why might your Rosalie's birth record not be in the
> Lutheran records?
> 
>       There is a giant 700+ page book by Busch,
>   "Materialien zur Geschichte und Statistik des Kirchen-
> und Schulwesens der Ev-Luth Gemeinden in Russland",
> written in 1862, which describes all the Lutheran congregations
> in Russia in some detail (at this time, Bialystok was in Russia,
> not in Poland). According to this book, the Lutheran Pastor only
> visited Ciechanowiec once each year - in between, the school-teacher
> ran the services. For example, I see that in 1860 the Pastor visited
> Ciechanowiec on the 10th April, and blessed 11 babies, born between

> June 1859 and March 1860, who had presumeably been baptised by the
> teacher.  In those circumstances, I would guess that
> some of the children born in the area might be baptised by clergy
> of other denominations, rather than by the teacher or Pastor.
> 
>      Why are the records in two archives? It was quite common
> that a copy of the records was sent to head-office, while the
> main copy was kept in the congregation. The congregations in
> Volhynia sent copies to St Petersburg; the Bialystok congregation
> sent copies to Mitau, which is now Jelgava in Latvia.  Those copies
> are in the Latvian archives, the originals are still in Bialystok.
> 
>                 Paul Rakow
> 
> PS for Vera:
> 
>    I see the dyer Carl Lamprecht as a godfather in entry 1860, #63.
> Have you seen that one already?
> 
>> On Tue, March 3, 2015 10:58, Marcia Ritke-Momose wrote:
>> 
>> I looked at birth records for a few years preceding 1862 and I?ll look at
>> other years as per your encouragement (:)).
>> 
>> Otherwise, if my Baums were in Ciechanowiec, why would Rosalie's birth
>> record not appear in these records?
> 
>> You mentioned the LDS records and that
>> together with these, they make a fairly complete record, but I am
>> wondering why all the records aren?t in one repository. Do you know?
>> 
>> Thank you for all your help.
>> Marcia
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 2, 2015, at 3:49 PM, Paul Rakow <paul.rakow at cantab.net> wrote:
>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The town  Ciechanowiec was one of the industrial towns
>>>>> in the Bialystok area - I had Gruenke and Huebner ancestors living
>>>>> in Knyszyn, one of the other towns in that area, so I have
>>>>> some ideas about what records are available.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ciechanowiec was part of Bialystok parish. The LDS have
>>>>> microfilmed a lot of Lutheran records in the Bialystok archives, and
>>>>> there are also on-line records available from the Latvian National
>>>>> Archives in Riga. Both sets have gaps, but putting
>>>>> them together they make a pretty good collection of records.
>>>>> 
>>>>> For the online records, go to
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.lvva-raduraksti.lv/en.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The first time you will have to register and choose a
>>>>> password. After that, you should be on a page called Raduraksti,
>>>>> with a family tree on it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Follow the links:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Contents > Church books > Evangelic Lutheran >
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Parishes outside the Latvian territory
>>>>> 
>>>>> and then Belostokas (for Bialystok).
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Pastor only visited Ciechanowiec once a year, I'm not
>>>>> sure how complete the records are. If you can't find your family in
>>>>> the Lutheran records, it might be a good idea to
>>>>> check other denominations.
> 
>