[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Questions on baptism
Karl Krueger
dabookk54 at yahoo.com
Wed Dec 30 05:23:00 PST 2015
Welcome Sarah,
You are making some good progress partially translating Polish records. The SGGEE website has resources to help you learn the basics of translating Polish and Cyrillic records so if you get into this deeper you may want to look into that. I find it helpful to recognize and understand numbers, months, and words that indicate relationships.
https://www.sggee.org/research/translation_aids.html
Generally christenings included a male and female godparent (Pathen). Normally one of the witnesses was the male pathen. There can be individual exceptions to this and you probably have one case where two women were designated. Jungfrau is German for unmarried. Often pathen and witnesses were related to the parents or at least very close friends. So its good to pay attention to that. As you study more records from the church you will see patterns of which families tend to associate with each other.
Karl
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On Tue, 12/29/15, Sarah Nielsen <sarahsolen at hotmail.com> wrote:
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Questions on baptism
To: "SGGEE" <ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org>
Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 6:29 PM
Thanks to Rose Ingram for linking to
the Poland Evangelical Records. I started looking around in
the Kobylki book and found pages full of documents with my
family's names on them. I just have some questions about
what a baptism likely involved. Here is a link to one
page:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L99H-89ZV-H?mode=g&wc=QZW1-Q2J%3A1588932888%2C1588932897%2C1589088144%2C1589087769%3Fcc%3D2564996&cc=2564996
Rather than having two godparents listed, they instead have
(based on my best understanding from google translate) two
male witnesses. Then under the listing for Pathen (google
translate says that means godfather) there are the names of
two women. In some of the records one of the women's names
has the word jungfrau in parenthesis. Jungfrau apparently
means maiden/virgin so I am assuming it means unmarried. So
were the men just witnesses or would one of them acted as a
godfather? Why were there two women listed? Any other
information that anyone knows would be welcome.
I am just wondering because I see so many familiar names all
over records throughout this record and I wondered how
closely they were tied to these people with names I don't
recognize.
Thanks,
Sarah
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