[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Plock Divorce record -- found?

[Gerald Klatt]

Hi Peter,

IMHO, and in absence of any additional supporting documentation, further interpretation as to whether  Anna
Maria Ehmke might have been barren, unfaithful or had run off would be pure speculation. It could be any of those or none of those. I think you did well to find out that the marriage was annulled by the court for cause, whatever it might have been.

Regards,

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter" gmail.com>
To: "SGGEE" sggee.org>
Cc: "Karl Krueger" , "Earl Schultz" telusplanet.net>
Sent: Sunday, 27 July, 2014 7:10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Plock Divorce record -- found?

Once again, for those who have kindly been following along and being
so helpful regarding my historic family drama, here is another
important clue.

The kind reader of this list who was able to provide me with the Plock
record of August Daubler's first marriage to Ehmke, was able to get
the note regarding the divorce in the left margin translated by a
native Polish speaker.

He offers this intriguing insight:
"It just says that the marriage was between August Daubler and Anna
Maria Ehmke was annulled by the court because of her fault. (i.e.: she
is to blame)."

Any thoughts as to how to best interpret that?



On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Karl Krueger  wrote:
> With the Lublin records we occasionally would see notations like this written in the margins for something that occured in the future. I don't remember seeing anything on marriage records but there were plenty of them on birth records. This appeared to be a way the church would update their records on a change in status for someone in their church.
>
> So this is not the formal divorce record. I believe those were printed out in Warsaw. In a private email I sent Peter I explained to him that since the divorce and August's remarriage both occured at the same church the divorce record would not be found in alegata. The church already had record of that so they didn't need to request it from another church.
>
> All this interest indicates I should include an example of a divorce record on our Lublin site showing different types of records. Maybe within the next week I'll track down an example of one and post on the same page where I referenced alegata earlier.
>
> Peter's best option is still DNA evidence. This will not give conclusive evidence but at least you can obtain imputed evidence if the genes with discriminatory markers from August sorted appropriately through the 3 generations.
> Karl
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Wed, 7/23/14, Rose Ingram <roseingram at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Plock Divorce record -- found?
>  To: "Peter" gmail.com>, "SGGEE" sggee.org>
>  Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2014, 7:01 PM
>
>  Yup, this notation on the side of the
>  marriage record does indicated a dissolvement of the
>  marriage.  This may be about all you will find.
>  One other option may be the Alegata records of Plock church
>  in Plock Archives, which you would have to order directly
>  from the Archives.
>
>  Rose
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: Peter
>    To: SGGEE
>    Cc: Karl Krueger ; Earl.Schultz at telusplanet.net
>
>    Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 3:35 PM
>    Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Plock Divorce record
>  -- found?
>
>
>    For those who have been kindly following along in my
>  historic family
>    drama, I did hear from one generous reader of this
>  listserv who
>    happened to have a copy from the LDS Microfilm of
>  August Daubler's
>    first marriage to Juliana Ehmke in 1845 (which ended
>  in the
>    "dissolvement") that he kindly sent to me.
>
>    What's interesting about the 1845 marriage record is
>  that a
>    significant signed note appears to have been written
>  horizontally in
>    the left margin, indicating the date of 1869 (the
>  year of the
>    divorce). I'm wondering if indeed this could be the
>  record of the
>    divorce that my family and I have been seeking.
>
>    The record can be downloaded from this link for the
>  next week or so:
>
>    http://we.tl/gRq1iPwKpi
>
>    I feel like I'm finally getting close -- are any
>  readers here able to
>    make sense of exactly what that note in the left
>  margin says?
>
>    Tremendous thanks,
>
>    Peter
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