[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Seeking Records from the Evangelical Augsburg Consistory Council

[Peter]

Again, continued thanks Karl.

The church where the marriage that resulted in divorced (or, as the
record says, "dissolvement") took place is the same church where the
second marriage took place. The second marriage record does indicate
the date and judgement of the dissolvement of the first marriage.

But as you and Earl have pointed out, any record of the judgement of
the dissolvement itself, is likely not to give any further information
(ie: the cause being adultery, etc.). Still, I admit it would be
interesting to see.

In the meantime, I am continuing to prod my cousin to get the ball
rolling in contacting the potential DNA donors...

Peter



On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Karl Krueger <dabookk54 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> In a separate email my 3rd cousin sent me privately on this topic discussing with Rose the idea was raised that, if you know the church where August and WIlhelmine got married then a copy of the divorce record should be included in the alegata of the church where they were married. Lublin has a number of these among the alegata and they all seem to arrive from the main consistory in Warsaw. In general the only information you will get is their names, the date of their marriage, and the date the divorce was finalized.
>
> If you want to learn more about alegata go our Lublin project page dealing with this. I should add a little section covering divorces but those are very rare.
> https://www.sggee.org/research/parishes/lublin_records/record_types.html#alegata
>
> Karl
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 7/22/14, Peter <chamdo4ever at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Seeking Records from the Evangelical Augsburg Consistory Council
>  To: "SGGEE" <ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org>
>  Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2014, 4:35 PM
>
>  My gosh Paul, you are
>  amazing.
>
>  As you said, that
>  is mixed news... ultimately bad in that the record
>  I'm seeking is not available. But still, I
>  salute you for coming up
>  with the source for
>  those records so quickly.
>
>  Many, many thanks to you... and to everyone on
>  this listserve who have
>  been so remarkably
>  helpful.
>
>  Peter Schmidt
>
>
>  On Tue, Jul
>  22, 2014 at 1:40 PM,  <paul.rakow at cantab.net>
>  wrote:
>  >
>  >  Hello
>  Earl, Peter,
>  >
>  >
>    Now that Natalia has cleared up the "Tsarist
>  Poyavskoi"
>  >  red herring, I've
>  got some good news, and some bad news.
>  >
>  >      In the AGAD
>  archive in Warsaw, they have the surviving records
>  >  of the Evangelical-Augsburg Consistory
>  of Warsaw, which I think
>  >  must be the
>  organisation you are looking for. This includes the
>  >  records of the Consistory Court on
>  divorce cases, but unfortunately
>  >  just
>  for the years 1876-1936, which is a few years too late for
>  the
>  >  case that interests you.
>  >
>  >     The
>  Consistory records are Fond 432, title
>  >  Konsystorz Kościoła
>  Ewangelicko-Augsburskiego w Warszawie
>  >
>  >     You
>  can read a little (in Polish) about the Fond and its
>  contents at
>  >
>  >  http://baza.archiwa.gov.pl/sezam/sezam.php?l=en&mode=show&zespoly_id=432
>  >
>  >     I
>  don't know if there is any other archive that might hold
>  older
>  >  divorce records - if you do
>  find them, I'm sure there would be a lot
>  >  of interest.
>  >
>  >             Paul Rakow
>  >
>  > ======
>  > "Earl Schultz" <Earl.Schultz at telusplanet.net>
>  wrote:
>  >
>  >> 4. Re:
>  Seeking Records from the Evangelical   Augsburg
>  Consistory
>  >> Council (Earl
>  Schultz)
>  >
>  >>
>  >> Peter, I don't have an answer for
>  you but I have noticed quite a few
>  >>
>  divorces in the Michalki records, near Plock, and I wrote an
>  article
>  >> about them for the SGGEE
>  Journal (Sep 2009).  I am interested if you
>  >> track these down.  I would approach
>  the archives in Lipno and/or Plock
>  >>
>  and ask if they have these records.  They do accept English
>  emails but
>  >> will reply in Polish.
>  Also, I would try the Evangelical-Augsburg Church
>  >> and you may want to start with the
>  Berlin Evangelical-Lutheran Archives
>  >> (EZAB) and they also accept English
>  emails.  Other than that, I can't
>  >> help but I would appreciate you
>  letting the listserve or me know what
>  >> answers you receive.
>  >>
>  >> Earl
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>  >>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> Does
>  anyone here know how I could track down the record of the
>  judgement
>  >>> of the Evangelical
>  Augsburg Consistory Council in Tsarist Poyavskoi
>  >>> regarding the dissolvement of a
>  marriage in Plock in 1869?
>  >>>
>  >>> Would such a record still exist?
>  How can I find out and begin the process
>  >>> of tracking down such a record?
>  >>>
>  >>> Any
>  help or guidance would be greatly appreciated.
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> Many thanks,
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> Peter Schmidt
>  >>>
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
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