[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Scheppel village

[Klaus-Guenter Leiss]

Am 2 Jan 2014 um 20:59 hat Katrin Hanko geschrieben:
Hello Katrin,
I would not ignore the Scheppel near Siegen. Siegen and
the surrounding lands where ceded to prussia in 1815. If
the family emigrated after that, they may have called the
village Scheppel in prussia


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siegen


Klaus Leiss


> Dear Jerry, dear Bernd,
> 
> thank you for your replies!
> 
> Jerry, I can read Cyrillic text indeed. There is no doubt that this
> Scheppel is a place name. The sentence says "... born in the village
> Scheppel in Prussia...".  I have tried Schöppel, Schappel, Scheppeldorf,
> etc. but with no better success. So your suggestions of Scheppelwitz or
> Schepelse or Czaple (suggested by Edelgard) or another Czaple (suggested by
> Frank) are perfect options. It seems that I have to wait for more church
> books of Lask/Zdunska Wola to be published on internet (there are only
> records from 1871 and 1872) - perhaps there will be an answer for me :)
> Thank you all very much!
> 
> By the way - for the period of appr. 1820 ~ 1840 there are a lot of records
> to be found in Mikolajewice Roman Catholic church books. The Germans
> residing in villages like Chorzeszow, Jesionna, Ludowinka, Huta Janowska,
> etc., used to go to Mikolajewice before switching to Lask Ewangelical
> church some time in 1840-1850. I have found a lot of valuable information
> there.
> 
> And other thing which could be interesting to all - at the beginning of
> 20th century some German families (from Wolhynia and from Poland among
> other parts of Russian Empire) came to Estonia and established 3-4 small
> German colonies. You can find their records in local church books, they are
> available on internet. Please feel free to ask me, if you need some
> guidance.
> 
> Best regards
> Katrin
> Tallinn, Estonia
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bernd" <ben.angel at t-online.de>
> To: "Jerry Frank" <franklyspeaking at shaw.ca>; "Katrin Hanko" 
> <katrin at bokser.ee>
> Cc: <ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 4:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Scheppel village
> 
> 
> Hello Jerry, hello Katrin,
> 
> what do you think about Schepelse (Scheipelse) in Niedersachsen. It belongs
> today to Eicklingen. Look here: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eicklingen.
> 
> Best regards
> Bernd Engelhorn
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- 
> From: Jerry Frank
> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 3:06 PM
> To: Katrin Hanko
> Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Scheppel village
> 
> Since you are from Estonia, you are probably fluent in reading Cyrillic.
> However, I must ask - is it possible you are reading a surname rather than
> a place name?  A general search indicates that it appears very commonly as
> a surname and not at all as a place name.  I also tried Schoeppel as a
> variant spelling (and Czeppel as a Polish variant) and got the same
> results.
> 
> Having said that, this site
> http://kartenmeister.com/preview/databaseuwe.asp does offer Scheppelwitz as
> a place name in Prussia.  It is the closest match I could find.  Might be
> worth at least trying a search in that region since nothing else seems
> possible.  Also checked the Ellis Island records.  No one showed Scheppel
> as a place of origin but a couple did show Scheppelwitz again.
> 
> 
> Jerry
> Calgary, AB
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Katrin Hanko" <katrin at bokser.ee>
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org
> Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2014 11:04:23 PM
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Scheppel village
> 
> Hello,
> 
> My 4th great-grandmother Dorota Frank, nee Kutzner died in 1872 in
> Jesionna, Lask at the age of 75. Her death record is to be found here:
> http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/metryka.php?ar=3&zs=1553d&sy=1872&kt=3&plik=04
> 7-050.jpg
>   - record No. 48.
> 
> It says that she was born in the village  in Prussia, which
> would be 'Scheppel' if transliterated. But I have no idea where this
> village could have been situated. I have found only "Scheppel / Dorf auf
> dem Westerwald im Amt Siegen" in "Wetterauischer Geographus:....." by
> Johann Hermann Dielhelm, but this seams to be not the right place as it is
> far from Prussia. Besides that - I cannot find any other source (e. g. old
> maps) indicating that this village even existed or where it was.
> 
> I'd be grateful for any suggestion that could help me to find out where the
> Kutzner family came from.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Katrin
> 
> Tallinn, Estonia
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