[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 135, Issue 6
Keith
trottkg at telus.net
Sat Aug 9 12:36:52 PDT 2014
Thanks Paul,
Yes, I have details from the St Petersburg records. I have a problwm going back to their ancestors. That is why I included details of Katharina Fiedler. I need to know more about the parents including Chistoph Fiedler's first wife.
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1. Re: Help finding a record or two (paul.rakow at cantab.net)
2. Help finding a record or two. (Keith Trott) (Frank Stewner)
Hello Keith,
Most of these Fiedler / Lutz children are recorded in the
St Petersburg microfilms / scans - have you looked at them yet.
Actually seeing the birth records for yourself might tell you
something extra (godparents might be a clue to other relatives,
and it might be good to be sure that the index-maker read the place
names correctly).
I can add at least one detail,
The marriage of Christoph Fiedler and Elisabeth Lutz was
on 20 June 1877, recorded in Zhitomir parish. Unfortunately,
we only have very brief marriage records, it looks like the
full marriage details weren't sent to St Petersburg.
Paul Rakow
"Keith Trott" <trottkg at telus.net> wrote:
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Help finding a record or two.
>
>
> I believe I have made a breakthrough on my Fiedler lineage after at least
> a decade of fruitless searching. I'm excited!
>
> I found some anecdotal information on Ancestry.ca (yes, I looked there
> before) and need some help. First, here is my Fiedler tree.
>
>
>
> Christoph Fiedler
>
>
> * unknown (wife 1) b unknown d bef 1878
>
>
> - August Fiedler b bef 1878 d unknown in Brazil, South America
>
>
> - Rudolf Fiedler b bef 1878 d unknown in Brazil, South America
>
>
> - Pauline Fiedler b bef 1878 d Aug 1908 in Mydzk, Volhynia, Russia
>
>
> * August Kreitschmann b unknown d 1917 in the Ural mountains, Russia
> m bef 1894 in Mydzk, Volhynia, Russia
>
> * Elizabeth Lutz(wife 2) b unknown d unknown m bef 1878
>
>
> - Katharina Fiedler b 28 May 1878 in Piaskim, Poland d 23 Jun 1967 in
> Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
>
>
> * Rudolf Patzil b 04 Mar 1874 in Klepush, Russia d abt 1949 in
> Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada m abt 1899
>
>
> - Anne Fiedler b 02 May 1881 in Kostopil, Volhynia, Russia d deceased
> in Canada
>
> - Ludwig Fiedler b 20 May 1883 in Studin, Volhynia, Russia d 12 Sep
> 1977 in St. Norbert, Manitoba, Canada
>
>
> * Hulda Holtz b 05 Mar 1886 in Drashna, Volhynia, Russia d 06 Dec
> 1971 in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
>
>
> - Augustina Fiedler b unknown d unknown
>
>
>
>
> I have previously searched for the children of Elizabeth Lutz and
> Christoph
> Fiedler without success but didn't have the birth data for Katharina
> Fiedler. I now believe she was born in Piaskim, Poland. I don't know
> where the town is nor do I know the consistory but feel the date and place
> are valid. My grandfather, Ludwig Fiedler was Evangelical Lutheran and I
> believe that Katharina was Christened the same. However, I have other
> anecdotal information that says she became Jewish (when she married??) so
> I
> will need to find her marriage record as well. Pauline Fiedler married
> August Kreitschmann and another source tells me he was Jewish. So there
> may be some mixed marriages here.
>
>
>
> If the names of Elizabeth Lutz' children are in church records, perhaps
> there will be a record for Christoph's first wife. That too, I would
> dearly love to find out. Any help would be dearly appreciated.
>
>
>
The birth of Katharina Fiedler was recorded in Shitomir 1878 on page 602
#1093 (St. Petersburg churchbook duplicates).
The birth village is named Piaskow which is
Peskow Kol. (Piaskow Kol./lost), Kostopil, Rivne, Ukraine 505725
262738
And seen on Jerry Frank map F-3.
Child Anna was recorded in Shitomir 1881 page 213 #1289.
I can send the two pages if wanted.
Frank Stewner
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Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Help finding a record or two.
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Good evening everyone,
I believe I have made a breakthrough on my Fiedler lineage after at least a
decade of fruitless searching. I'm excited!
I found some anecdotal information on Ancestry.ca (yes, I looked there
before) and need some help. First, here is my Fiedler tree.
Christoph Fiedler
* unknown (wife 1) b unknown d bef 1878
- August Fiedler b bef 1878 d unknown in Brazil, South America
- Rudolf Fiedler b bef 1878 d unknown in Brazil, South America
- Pauline Fiedler b bef 1878 d Aug 1908 in Mydzk, Volhynia, Russia
* August Kreitschmann b unknown d 1917 in the Ural mountains, Russia
m bef 1894 in Mydzk, Volhynia, Russia
* Elizabeth Lutz(wife 2) b unknown d unknown m bef 1878
- Katharina Fiedler b 28 May 1878 in Piaskim, Poland d 23 Jun 1967 in
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
* Rudolf Patzil b 04 Mar 1874 in Klepush, Russia d abt 1949 in
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada m abt 1899
- Anne Fiedler b 02 May 1881 in Kostopil, Volhynia, Russia d deceased
in Canada
- Ludwig Fiedler b 20 May 1883 in Studin, Volhynia, Russia d 12 Sep
1977 in St. Norbert, Manitoba, Canada
* Hulda Holtz b 05 Mar 1886 in Drashna, Volhynia, Russia d 06 Dec
1971 in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
- Augustina Fiedler b unknown d unknown
I have previously searched for the children of Elizabeth Lutz and Christoph
Fiedler without success but didn't have the birth data for Katharina
Fiedler. I now believe she was born in Piaskim, Poland. I don't know where
the town is nor do I know the consistory but feel the date and place are
valid. My grandfather, Ludwig Fiedler was Evangelical Lutheran and I
believe that Katharina was Christened the same. However, I have other
anecdotal information that says she became Jewish (when she married??) so I
will need to find her marriage record as well. Pauline Fiedler married
August Kreitschmann and another source tells me he was Jewish. So there may
be some mixed marriages here.
If the names of Elizabeth Lutz' children are in church records, perhaps
there will be a record for Christoph's first wife. That too, I would dearly
love to find out. Any help would be dearly appreciated.
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