[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Sewerynow, Gvt Warsaw
Karl Krueger
dabookk54 at yahoo.com
Thu Apr 10 06:22:49 PDT 2014
Further description of Alegata and examples of records you will find in them can be found on our site:
https://www.sggee.org/research/parishes/lublin_records/record_types.html#alegata
This came from the Lublin project. The important thing to keep in mind is records for alegata may be found for your couple of interest if either was not born and christened in the church where they were married. Essentially the church where they married needed to have some documentation of their birth, or if one was a widow/widower, then they would need documentation of the previous spouse. Assuming these did not happen at the church where they would have the birth or death records, the church would need to get that documentation from the appropriate church or local authority as a birth or death certification (usually copied as a Napoleonic record but not always). In cases where it was not possible to get a birth certification then two people would testify on the identity of the person which is where the Polish term Akt Zeznania comes from.
Hopefully all this makes this link easier to understand. Note that if both the husband and wife were born or their previous spouse died at the same church where they were married, you will NOT find alegata for them. Also note that all birth and death certifications were not written at the church where they were married - they came from another church where ever that event occurred so alegata in one year for a church typically have quite an assortment of records arising from different churches.
Karl
From: Jerry Frank <franklyspeaking at shaw.ca>
To: Krampetz at aol.com
Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org; patterson rachael <patterson.rachael at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Sewerynow, Gvt Warsaw
For a good explanation of what alegata records are, go to http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/poland/Q2.htmand browse down to Item #20.
If you search Polish Archives for your location, it will tell you if alegata are available. They often include valuable data not shown on the marriage record or they may exist when a marriage record does not because they were not kept in the same book.
They are not in any standard format, Napoleonic or otherwise, so they can be difficult to read. They are not alphabetized nor indexed.
There are some alegata for the Lutheran parish at Rawa Mazowiecka held in the Lodz Archive. I had the opportunity to look through them when I was there 2 years ago but did not find any ancestral connections that I was hoping might be there.
Jerry
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From: Krampetz at aol.com
To: "patterson rachael" <patterson.rachael at gmail.com>, ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 2:57:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Sewerynow, Gvt Warsaw
That posting is from July 25, 2006 and the http://baza.archiwa.gov.pl/...
etc ...
link given does not work.
Any one know where that is now?
Bob
In a message dated 04/09/14 12:45:04 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
patterson.rachael at gmail.com writes:
..for those interested.. records preserved in Polish state archives are
named "alegata" (attachments to marriage records)... for many,
genealogical
searches could be like a treasure, as you could find birth certificates of
groom and bride, parent's approval when bride was under age, etc.
http://genforum.genealogy.com/poland/messages/36124.html
Rachael
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> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 23:10:28 -0600 (MDT)
> From: Jerry Frank <franklyspeaking at shaw.ca>
> To: Joanna Hintz <hintzjoanna at googlemail.com>
> Cc: SGGEE <ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Sewerynow, Gvt Warsaw
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> That's correct - shown on my map as Rawa Mazowiecka.
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> Unfortunately the records for this parish were destroyed in WW II and no
> duplicates have been found to date. Some alegata records are available
in
> the Lodz Archive.
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> Jerry
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joanna Hintz" <hintzjoanna at googlemail.com>
> To: "Linda Bowen" <lindakbowen at cox.net>
> Cc: "SGGEE" <ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 1:59:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Sewerynow, Gvt Warsaw
>
> Linda,
>
> I think it is Rawa Stara.
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> Joanna
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> 2014-04-06 20:39 GMT+02:00 Linda Bowen <lindakbowen at cox.net>:
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> > Does anyone know what parish served this town?
> > I'm referring to the Sewerynow found on Jerry's Map
> > U SE of Skierniewice.
> > TIA
> > Linda
> >
> >
>
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