[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 126, Issue 27
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Today's Topics:
1. German Language Newspapers - Canada (gpvjem)
2. Re: German Language Newspapers - Canada (Gary Warner)
3. some kind of grain (Richard Benert)
4. Re: some kind of grain (rlyster)
5. Re: some kind of grain (Otto)
6. Re: some kind of grain (Bianca Ritz)
7. Re: some kind of grain (Dr Susanne Jeske)
8. Re: some kind of grain (Otto)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 16:14:35 -0600
From: "gpvjem" <gpvjem at sasktel.net>
To: <Ger-Poland-Volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] German Language Newspapers - Canada
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Greetings Listserve members:
Does anyone know if German language newspapers "Der Nordwesten" and "Der
Kourier" that were published in Winnipeg Manitoba available to the public
for viewing on microfilm? I am particularly interested in the obituaries of
the very early 1900s.
With thanks,
John Marsch
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 16:07:59 -0800
From: Gary Warner <garyw555 at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] German Language Newspapers - Canada
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John,
I did an inter-library loan for Der Nordwestern more than twenty years
ago, and it was on microfilm or microfiche at that time. ?I do not remember
which library, but it came to me in Washington on request through my local
library. ?It might be digitized by now.
Gary Warner
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Date: 11/29/2013 2:14 PM (GMT-08:00)
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Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] German Language Newspapers - Canada
Greetings Listserve members:????
?? Does anyone know if German language newspapers "Der Nordwesten" and
"Der Kourier" that were published in Winnipeg Manitoba available to the public
for viewing on microfilm?? I am particularly interested in the obituaries
of the very early 1900s.
With thanks,
John Marsch
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 18:28:10 -0800
From: "Richard Benert" <benovich at live.com>
To: "SGGEE" <ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org>
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] some kind of grain
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Does anyone happen to know what "Welschkorn" might be, or what it might
have
been back around 1800? The Russian government's recruitment propaganda
included it along with wine, saffron, melons and tobacco in a list of all
the wonderful things that would grow in the Odessa region.
>From the Department of Silly Questions in Bozeman.
Dick Benert
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Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 19:30:16 -0700 (MST)
From: rlyster <rlyster at telusplanet.net>
To: Richard Benert <benovich at live.com>
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Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] some kind of grain
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Maybe you mean Weisekorn or Wheat?? Rita
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From: "Richard Benert" <benovich at live.com>
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Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 7:28:10 PM
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] some kind of grain
Does anyone happen to know what "Welschkorn" might be, or what it might
have
been back around 1800? The Russian government's recruitment propaganda
included it along with wine, saffron, melons and tobacco in a list of all
the wonderful things that would grow in the Odessa region.
>From the Department of Silly Questions in Bozeman.
Dick Benert
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 22:40:41 -0500
From: Otto <otto at schienke.com>
To: SGGEE <ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org>
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] some kind of grain
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On Nov 29, 2013, at 9:30 PM, rlyster wrote:
> Maybe you mean Weisekorn or Wheat?? Rita
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Benert" <benovich at live.com>
> To: "SGGEE" <ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 7:28:10 PM
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] some kind of grain
>
> Does anyone happen to know what "Welschkorn" might be, or what it might
have
> been back around 1800? The Russian government's recruitment propaganda
> included it along with wine, saffron, melons and tobacco in a list of
all
> the wonderful things that would grow in the Odessa region.
>
> From the Department of Silly Questions in Bozeman.
> Dick Benert
> _______________________________________________
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BUCKWHEAT
I cannot state with certainty but I'd place my nickel on Buckwheat.
Buchweizen = Beechwheat = Buckwheat = Fagopyrum esculentum related to
rhubarb, an ancient seed cultivated approximately 8,000 years. We raised a
field of it each year for baking and as a grits sausage ingredient. My son saw
fields of it growing in Bhutan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckwheat
Schwarzes Welschkorn {n} [Buchweizen]
buckwheat [Fagopyrum esculentum, syn.: F. emarginatum]bot.
common buckwheat [Fagopyrum esculentum, syn.: F. emarginatum]bot.
Japanese buckwheat [Fagopyrum esculentum, syn.: F. emarginatum]bot.
silverhull buckwheat [Fagopyrum esculentum, syn.: F. emarginatum]bot.
http://www.dict.cc/german-english/Schwarzes+Welschkorn.html
http://translation.babylon.com/german/Welschkorn/#
Welschkorn in German
Welschkorn bezeichnet:
? (Alt)-Mais (von ?welschem Korn?)
? Echter Buchweizen (auch Schwarzes Welschkorn)
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welschkorn
. . . Otto
" The Zen moment..." wk. of January 01, 2013-
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Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 09:16:55 +0100 (CET)
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Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 09:21:47 +0100
From: Dr Susanne Jeske <susannejeske at orange.fr>
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Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] some kind of grain
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I found eather mais or buckwheat, having looked on the german page of
whikipedia..
Have a nice day and sorry for my bad english...
Susanne
Am 30.11.2013 04:40, schrieb Otto:
>
> On Nov 29, 2013, at 9:30 PM, rlyster wrote:
>
>> Maybe you mean Weisekorn or Wheat?? Rita
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Richard Benert" <benovich at live.com>
>> To: "SGGEE" <ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org>
>> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 7:28:10 PM
>> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] some kind of grain
>>
>> Does anyone happen to know what "Welschkorn" might be, or what it might
have
>> been back around 1800? The Russian government's recruitment propaganda
>> included it along with wine, saffron, melons and tobacco in a list of
all
>> the wonderful things that would grow in the Odessa region.
>>
>> From the Department of Silly Questions in Bozeman.
>> Dick Benert
>> _______________________________________________
>> Ger-Poland-Volhynia site list
>> Ger-Poland-Volhynia at sggee.org
>> https://www.sggee.org/mailman/listinfo/ger-poland-volhynia
> BUCKWHEAT
> I cannot state with certainty but I'd place my nickel on Buckwheat.
>
> Buchweizen = Beechwheat = Buckwheat = Fagopyrum esculentum related to
rhubarb, an ancient seed cultivated approximately 8,000 years. We raised a
field of it each year for baking and as a grits sausage ingredient. My son
saw fields of it growing in Bhutan.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckwheat
>
> Schwarzes Welschkorn {n} [Buchweizen]
> buckwheat [Fagopyrum esculentum, syn.: F. emarginatum]bot.
> common buckwheat [Fagopyrum esculentum, syn.: F. emarginatum]bot.
> Japanese buckwheat [Fagopyrum esculentum, syn.: F. emarginatum]bot.
> silverhull buckwheat [Fagopyrum esculentum, syn.: F. emarginatum]bot.
>
> http://www.dict.cc/german-english/Schwarzes+Welschkorn.html
>
> http://translation.babylon.com/german/Welschkorn/#
> Welschkorn in German
> Welschkorn bezeichnet:
> ? (Alt)-Mais (von ?welschem Korn?)
> ? Echter Buchweizen (auch Schwarzes Welschkorn)
>
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welschkorn
>
> . . . Otto
> " The Zen moment..." wk. of January 01, 2013-
> _____________________________________
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 09:12:05 -0500
From: Otto <otto at schienke.com>
To: SGGEE <ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org>
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] some kind of grain
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On Nov 30, 2013, at 3:16 AM, Bianca Ritz wrote:
> Hello Richard,
>
> Welschkorn is maize. See here.
> http://www.badische-seiten.de/alemannisch/lexikon.php?le=2992
>
> Bianca
If you have read my first E-letter you are aware I included (3) URLS
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckwheat
> http://www.dict.cc/german-english/Schwarzes+Welschkorn.html
> http://translation.babylon.com/german/Welschkorn/#
and (2) choices Corn (Maize) and buckwheat (buchweizen)
The German term "korn" refers to "grain" i.e. "Welshkorn.. . ." Is Welsh
grain our South American Maize? Or is it Buckwheat? Both are referred to as
Welsh grain.
Two definitions exist, Maize is what we call in English "Corn" of many
varieties, thanks to the Mexicans and South Americans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-08/russia-s-black-earth-farmers-switch
-to-corn-oilseeds-for-profit.html
The Odessa area does produce corn. Today, Lots.
Buckwheat is a short season crop and Russia is the world's largest
producer of it. Note it states over 800,000 tons annually.
Country Area Harvested (ha) Production (tonnes)
Russian Federation 843,200 800,380
Two choices exist as to which grain crop was indicated, 1.corn or 2.
buckwheat.
Here is another URL
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_the_Russian_Empire
What did they produce in the 1800's in the Odessa areas of cultivation?
Herr Benert will have to do more research to discover which one was
intended by his query. I also am now curious. I am not that familiar with the
Odessa area farming practices.
. . . Otto
" The Zen moment..." wk. of January 01, 2013-
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