[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Kunkolewo Hauland / Familie Klingspohn in Canada

Thu Feb 28 01:12:11 PST 2013

Hi Cathy,
my name is Gert Klingspohn from Germany.

I do not think that we are related to each other (unfortunately). My 
father was born 1909 in Bielin / Lubelski / Volhynia and came after the 
death of his parents in 1926 in the area ofKolmar to Seefeld / Laskowo 
near Samotschin (Szamocin). In 1937 he settled in Bismarcksruhm 
(Ostrowke / Kolmar). His possession included a small plot in Forest 
Kunkolewo Hauland. Our last visit there was in 2008.

Now I have a question about our relatives in Canada. Maybe someone can 
help me to find them (there are lots of cousins of mine).

I'm looking for descendants of my uncleAdolf Klingspohn (born 04.02.1904 
in Bielin / Lubelski / Volhynia, died in 1992 in Penticton). He lived in 
Kelowna and Penticton. His children (my cousins) are:

Waltraud Dimler (born Klingspohn)
Dorothea Beckmann (born Klingspohn)
Wilfried Rudi Klingspohn
Ruth Catherine Kowalski (born Klingspohn)
Elizabeth Doberstein (born Klingspohn)
Ruben Klingspohn

Unfortunately, I have no contact to all. Can anyone help me to find them.

Greetings from Deutschalnd
Gert Klingspohn

Am 25.02.2013 20:28, schrieb Cathy Walters:
> Hello Gert,
>
> Nice to meet you, well we could be cousins or share cousin's !   May I 
> ask of your families ?
>  Zuepke-Ziepke-Zipke-sounds like 
> Kep-Key/Mietzner/Buschke/Zanto-ow/Ehrenberg/Stoltz/Stoltz/(Kuehn-Germany/(Lebert-Germany)- 
> kreis Kolmar .
> Priebe/Heyn/Hein? un-proven as of yet/Fedder/Mietzner/Gehlhar-Geehlar, 
> we have 1/2-siblings- double cousin's-great grand aunts & uncles, my 
> great grandmothers father married her husband's sister & had 7 
> children, Rheinhold Fedder in 1905-1910 German address book living in 
> Obornik, two others in it in kreis Kolmar- being I don't have their 
> full names or any info, don't know if it is them or their children. 
> Kreis Obornik & Kolmar
>                              Hugs Cathy in Elgin, Minnesota
> *  ALWAYS A ROSE *
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Gert Klingspohn <gert.klingspohn at online.de>
> *To:* Cathy Walters <walters.cathy at yahoo.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 25, 2013 11:37 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] new email and Küster
>
> Hallo Cathy,
>
> Kunkolewo Hauland is a few km away from my birthplace "Bismarcksruhm" or
> now Ostrowke.
>
> The place "Schniedermuehl" was "Schneidemuehl". The name now ist Pila.
>
> Greetings
> Gert
>
> Am 24.02.2013 23:34, schrieb Cathy Walters:
> > Thank you Dick for adding this !  It also gives an idea what the 
> other teachers, may have gone through of other religions.  If I may 
> add my two cents, in Poland if was an teacher, one could skip military 
> service, and wonder if that maybe case for Prussian in Poland who were 
> teachers.  Also Friedrich The Great wanted ex military/injured 
> soldiers to be teachers-archives online, the one that has a lot of 
> miss spellings- due to what I think to avoid being sued .  Early when 
> one was 14 graduated 8th grade you could take a test & become an 
> teacher, later you spent few months as a teachers aid type, then later 
> on you had to spend a longer time 6mo's as a teachers aid, before 
> becoming a solo teacher- my guess for later era 1830 or 1860"s?
> >
> > All of this I've been watching, am very thankful with all this info, 
> lay-person Werner was, who bpted 1874 Gottlieb Rossin  Ev.Tremessen, 
> teacher & was  also for Confirmation too in Niewolno, kreis Mogilno 
> 1888( my grandfather).      Johann Gottlieb Mietzner b.c.1790's was 
> teacher in Kunkolewo Hauland, was living on estate 1841, (my great gr. 
> grandfather) kreis Kolmar, there was a teachers school at 
> Schniedermuehl, but wonder if that be at a later time ?
> >
> > Many of those that ended up in district of Russian Poland had came 
> from Posen area,Westpreussen, figure add this,which some will want to 
> read, if haven't already had to refresh ones memory, it's been 
> translated in English in parts, circa 1893 Carl Otto, On Czarnikau 
> area, I hadn't known this area had been connected to Deutsch Krone 
> 1700's & then became it's own district that once had Kolmar area 
> included-which came into being by 1818. 
> http://www.posen-l.com/pos/Resources/Books/DGdiCuU/DGdDiCuU.htm   Now 
> one can wonder & feel bad-what happened to all the books from 
> Gramsdorf, Obornik went !  So if you found others in other 
> books-churches-please speak out, Wischin Hauland kreis Kolmar was 
> across the bridge-my families missing info ;  (
> >
> > Colonist & census, including Pomerainia, one should mention, if 
> someone left your area-to colonize another area-that person is most 
> likely sibling of your ancestor & the reason you don't see yours is 
> they are already there.  Census, well they can mess up surnames, why 
> is it much easier finding others families ancestors- then your own 
> direct ?  ;  )
> > http://www.grhs.org/chapters/bess/research_origins_poland.htm
> >
> > Don't forget if you found something interesting or helpful, others 
> may too !  One may open doors for others-who have being only seeing 
> brick walls
> >                                                Cathy in Elgin,Minnesota
> >
> >    ALWAYS A ROSE
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >  From: Richard Benert <benovich at live.com <mailto:benovich at live.com>>
> > To: SGGEE Mail List <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org 
> <mailto:ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 12:14 PM
> > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] new email and Küster
> >
> > For those who haven’t noticed, I have a new email address.  It’s 
> benovich at live.com <mailto:benovich at live.com>. Scratch the old “imt.net 
> <http://imt.net/>”.
> >
> > On the Küster matter, it finally occurred to me to check out Joseph 
> Height’s “Homesteaders on the Steppe.”  He quotes a document outlining 
> the schoolmaster’s duties in South Russia which I thought would be 
> interesting to repeat (pace, Jerry) here.  It is dated 1819, 
> Kleinliebenthal, a Catholic colony.
> > 1. Teach 3 hours in the morning and 3 in the afternoon.
> > 2.Teach Catechism one hour every Sunday.
> > 3. Ring the Angelus bell 3 times a day.
> > 4. Teach the children to read and write German, recite Latin, and do 
> arithmetic.
> > 5. Teach 4 boys to serve mass, and teach at least 6 boys in choral 
> singing.
> > 6. Assist the priest according to custom.
> > 7. Conduct one hour of prayer on Saturdays, and ordinary devotions 
> on Sundays and holy days.
> > 8. Stay away from the tavern, on pain of dismissal.
> > 9. Refrain from reading forbidden books.
> > 10. Refrain from profane language, on penalty of salary deduction.
> > 11. Receive the clerical school supervisors with courtesy.
> > 12. For weighty and approved reasons the schoolmaster can be 
> dismissed with the approval of the pastor.
> >
> > Dick B.
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