[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Eisbrenner / Mielke / Kelm in Volhynia 1890's

Thu Apr 18 12:58:04 PDT 2013

  Hello Helen,

       I think I've found something for you, in the Liverpool
  passenger lists, and the Canadian lists:

       There were a J. Eisbrenner (26) and a J Eisbrenner (2), booked
  on the "Dominion" from Liverpool to Quebec, leaving 15 Sept 1898,
  but they missed the boat; and travelled instead on the "Vancouver",
  which left Liverpool 6 Oct 1898, arrived Quebec/Montreal 16 Oct 1898.

       In the Canadian passenger list their names are given
  as Justina and Julius Eisbrenner, nation Russian German,
  destination Gretna, Man.

        That's a perfect match for your family,

              Paul Rakow
              Liverpool

  Helen Lallo <helen_lallo at yahoo.com> wrote: 
>
> Looking to hire an appropriate researcher for Eisbrenner / Mielke / Kelm family information in Volhynia 1890's
>
> The only confirmed information I have through documents are
> 1.? WW1 records show that my great uncle Julius Eisbrenner was born in Rivne/Rovno -- 18 Dec 1895.?
> 2.? And in 1900 US Census my great grandfather August working on a farm as a hired hand in Neche, North Dakota.
> 3.? April 19, 1910 US Census the family in Neche, ND --- parents August(1866) / Justine (1871) were born in Poland and married in 1896, the oldest son Julius born in Russia in 1896.? The year of immigration for Father - 1897, and the mother and oldest son -1898.? They had 10 children, 5 living.
> The family story was that they were born in Jalowitz (?), Poland ----Lutherans of German descent who immigrated first to Gretna, Manitoba.? That August got a job first across the border in North Dakota and then once they had enough money they rented a place. Then my grandmother and her siblings were born and raised in North Dakota.?
>
> AUGUST EISBRENNER???? Born 26 Feb 1865 in Poland???????? Death 30 May 1941 in Bathgate,North Dakota
>
> AUGUSTA (JUSTINE) MIELKE??? Birth 10 March 1871 in Poland? Death 3 July 1933 in Bathgate, North Dakota
> ??????????? Justine had a sister Anna who married Julius Kelm in Volhynia and did not immigrate with them.
>
> I was interested in HIRING someone who was an expert to do research on my AUGUST and JUSTINE.? Any recommendations??? I
> already have spent quite a bit of time on multiple websites and have not
> found anything that has helped me identify how to find out the family
> names or towns that my great grandparents came from so therefore I really can't use the excellent information on the SGGEE website for research.? I have collected family names of Eisbrenners and Mielke families from the 1800's,? but as of yet have not been able to find out the names of my great great grandparents on either side.? I do not read
> German, Polish or Russian.? I would like researcher to look for marriage dates,
> parents names, sons birth record, what ship immigrated, etc.
>
> THANK YOU FOR ADVICE
> Helen Lallo
> San Jose, California
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 18:38:52 -0400
> From: Albert Muth <albertmuth734 at gmail.com>
> To: Ger-Poland-Volhynia <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] yet more scanned church records
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> Are you dizzy yet?  Thanks to Jan Textor, we know about a whole
> bunch of Lutheran records from Volhynia and elsewhere.  But
> AGAD (Archiwum G??wne Akt Dawnych w Warszawie) or
> the ?Central Archives of Historical Records? has lots
> of scanned records for everyone.
>
> INSTRUCTIONS
> 1. If one of the categories below interests you, click on the URL.
> 2. Then, in the left column, click the last item Inwentarz.
> 3. Up comes a very long list of items. If there are scanned records,
>    you will see a hyperlink named ?galeria ze skanami?.
>
> Roman Catholic Church, Archdiocese of Lw?w 1604-1945
> http://www.agad.gov.pl/inwentarze/KMLw301.xml
>
> Evangelical Lutheran Church, Volhynia and elsewhere
> http://www.agad.gov.pl/inwentarze/KsEA439x.xml
>
> Greek Catholic Church in the Archdioceses of Lw?w, Przemysl and
> Stanis?aw?w, years 1728-1943
> http://www.agad.archiwa.gov.pl/pomoce/gr298.xml#id0x060af350 (no scans yet)
>
> Jewish
> http://www.agad.gov.pl/inwentarze/Mojz300x.xml
>
> A similar condensed list, slightly longer, may be found at
> http://www.agad.gov.pl/inwentarze/testy.html
>
> The full list of archival items (in Polish) may be found at
> http://www.agad.archiwa.gov.pl/pomoce/spisze.xml
>
> Al Muth
> Livonia, MI (USA)
>
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> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 06:06:21 -0600 (MDT)
> From: Jerry Frank <franklyspeaking at shaw.ca>
> To: Helen Lallo <helen_lallo at yahoo.com>
> Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Eisbrenner / Mielke / Kelm in
> 	Volhynia 1890's
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> I cannot help directly but you might find it helpful to split your researchers into two different areas.  For example, it appears that August E. and Augusta M. were married in Volhynia in 1896 but where? The Eisbrenner and Mielke surnames are scattered throughout Volhynia.  The marriage record might give you an accurate clue to their origins in Russian Poland IF it contains their places of birth.  A researcher in Zhitomir may be able to help find such a record in Zhitomir Archives and may also have access to similar records in Rowno or Luck.  He would unlikely be able to help with further research in Russian Poland.
>
> Another researcher in Poland may be able to help with that.  You don't mention specifics of what info you have there.  For example we have in our MPD an August Eisbrenner born 12 Feb 1865 in Przedworszczyzna, Konin, Wielkopolskie, Poland.  That date is 14 days before you date which could be a perfect for changing the date from Julian to Gregorian calenders.  I strongly suspect this is the right person but you have no absolute proof without a marriage or death record that confirms a place of birth.  If you had other info about his siblings, you might be able to prove this through the names of the parents.
>
> The Augusta Mielke record is probably not in our database because her birth was after records changed to Cyrillic and not many of those records are extracted by us.  Again a researcher with experience in Cyrillic even locally could help with those as the records are microfilmed or online.
>
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Helen Lallo" <helen_lallo at yahoo.com>
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at sggee.org
> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:22:59 PM
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Eisbrenner / Mielke / Kelm in Volhynia 1890's
>
> Looking to hire an appropriate researcher for Eisbrenner / Mielke / Kelm family information in Volhynia 1890's
>
> The only confirmed information I have through documents are
> 1.? WW1 records show that my great uncle Julius Eisbrenner was born in Rivne/Rovno -- 18 Dec 1895.?
> 2.? And in 1900 US Census my great grandfather August working on a farm as a hired hand in Neche, North Dakota.
> 3.? April 19, 1910 US Census the family in Neche, ND --- parents August(1866) / Justine (1871) were born in Poland and married in 1896, the oldest son Julius born in Russia in 1896.? The year of immigration for Father - 1897, and the mother and oldest son -1898.? They had 10 children, 5 living.
> The family story was that they were born in Jalowitz (?), Poland ----Lutherans of German descent who immigrated first to Gretna, Manitoba.? That August got a job first across the border in North Dakota and then once they had enough money they rented a place. Then my grandmother and her siblings were born and raised in North Dakota.?
>
> AUGUST EISBRENNER???? Born 26 Feb 1865 in Poland???????? Death 30 May 1941 in Bathgate,North Dakota
>
> AUGUSTA (JUSTINE) MIELKE??? Birth 10 March 1871 in Poland? Death 3 July 1933 in Bathgate, North Dakota
> ??????????? Justine had a sister Anna who married Julius Kelm in Volhynia and did not immigrate with them.
>
> I was interested in HIRING someone who was an expert to do research on my AUGUST and JUSTINE.? Any recommendations??? I
> already have spent quite a bit of time on multiple websites and have not
> found anything that has helped me identify how to find out the family
> names or towns that my great grandparents came from so therefore I really can't use the excellent information on the SGGEE website for research.? I have collected family names of Eisbrenners and Mielke families from the 1800's,? but as of yet have not been able to find out the names of my great great grandparents on either side.? I do not read
> German, Polish or Russian.? I would like researcher to look for marriage dates,
> parents names, sons birth record, what ship immigrated, etc.
>
> THANK YOU FOR ADVICE
> Helen Lallo
> San Jose, California
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