[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Russian

Helen Gillespie hgillespie at rogers.com
Fri Feb 3 13:50:30 PST 2012


And it is about this time to - after the uprisings in 1863 - that our ancestors started moving towards Wolhynia - probably safer and opportunities beckoned.  Certainly some of mine did, but even there, they moved around, finding a big landowner who made them a decent offer until they could establish their own . 


 
Helen

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 From: Richard Benert <benovich at imt.net>
To: gpvjem <gpvjem at sasktel.net>; Marg Driechel <driechel at telus.net>; ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org 
Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 2:51:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Russian
 
John is certainly correct. Russian troops in Poland at that time were, in 
effect, an occupying army. The Polish Revolt of 1863 had reconfirmed the 
Russians' old distrust of the Poles. We shouldn't forget, however, that 
Russian Poland was a peninsula, surrounded on three sides by Prussia and 
Austria, who couldn't be trusted either. If, as Theodore Weeks says, "the 
Vistula Land had a higher concentration of fortresses and other military 
establishments than any other region of the empire," it was probably more 
for protection from foreign attack than to control the Poles (although the 
latter was certainly on their minds).
Dick Benert

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Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 6:16 AM
To: "Marg Driechel" <driechel at telus.net>; 
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Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Russian

>    My Grandfather Emil Marsch, returned to Poland from Volhynia to serve 
> in the Russian Army from 1879 to 1884.  In a short account of this he 
> described it as "necessary to fulfill his military duty" , i.e. drafted. 
> There was no war at that time. It appears the Russian army in Poland was 
> really an occupation army.
>
> John Marsch
>
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>
>  I greatfully received help with translation on Russian documents.
>  Would someone be able to help me understand what the following means?
>
>  metrical certificate issued by Novominsky uczd, military draft on 
> November 21 (?) 1879 #138
>
>  Also - what was happening in Poland/Russia in 1879?
>  Were German men living in Poland serving in a war at that time?
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