[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Scmidt ans Scheulze; now Rożyszcze marriages 1862-1895

[Albert Muth]

Hi Marlene,

I do not know if you have taken your research back
to looking at films for Briesen.

Be careful that you choose the correct one. There are

   - at least 20 back in Prussia and other areas of Germany.
   - The information on Rożyszcze film 2380026 is unequivocal and points to
   Briesen, Kreis Czarnikau, Posen.

This has nothing to do with the city in West Prussia.

Your Briesen is now Nowe Brzeźno located at N 52° 54' E 16°37'
about 3.4 km. East-ish of Czarnikau.

The 1866 #37 record is for Carl Schuetze and Wilhelmine Schmidt.

The 1872 #7 record for the marriage of Johann Gottlieb Schmidt
and Christine Gering also names his mother's maiden name,
if you do not have this. I am pretty certain that the marriage
of Michael Schmidt is recorded in the Posen Marriage Project.

His birth in Briesen, as stated.
Her birth in "Polen" (that limits it....; guess you have to pray that when
some of her siblings to get married in Rożyszcze, they name the specific
place).  Polen in 1872 means Russian Poland, specifically excludes
Prussian Poland

Speaking generally now about the specifics of Rożyszcze
parish found in the 238- series (marriages are films #2380026 through
2380029).
If you have a Rożyszcze marriage that you have found
in the the Stpete database (known at SGGEE as St.
Petersburg consistory or VKP), then you need to
rent the film from the 238- series to extract the information
that the stpete database lacks.

The stpete database (as the original Consistory record
from which the database transcribes) has merely the
name of groom, bride, and a date.

 The Rożyszcze records of the 238- series are real
parish records, unlike any of the other Volhynian parishes
in the stpete consistory  The real record usually
provides the age of bride and groom, full names of
parents, place of residence, place of birth.  If
widowed, then instead of parents, the name of the
previous spouse.

The complete set of Rożyszcze marriages from
1862 to 1895 is not yet indexed, except for the
years not in stpete. Currently, 1885-1895 are searchable
in the VKP index (for SGGEE members only).

Even when I complete indexing the years 1862-1884
(this is still my project, I believe). the record will
only have the names of groom and bride, marriage
date, and information to find the record on the
microfilm.  In 1862, there are 18 marriages.  In 1866, there
are found 46 marriages. In 1870, there take place 107 marriages.
In 1875, pastors celebrated 220 marriages.  Before
Rożyszcze parish split off a new parish in Wladimir
Wolinsk (a town known in Polish as Włodzimierz, in
Ukrainian as Володимир-Волинський), there were
said to be 40,000 members of Rożyszcze parish!

This number of people in a church would be
unsustainable!  No wonder this is a massive
emigration from Volhynia to the New
World in the 1890's and early years of 1900's.

Happy searching

Al Muth




> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marlene Dopp <skylane at canby.com>
> Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:06 pm
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Scmidt ans Scheulze
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
>
> > My 2nd grandfather Michael Schmidt emigrated from Brisen,
> > Czarnikau,Posen, West Prussia to Volhynia in the mid
> > 1800s.  He was a widow at the
> > time and  2 of his children went with him.  They were
> > Gottlieb, born 17 Sep.
> > 1842 and Enestine Wilhelmine,  born 19 Sep 1844.
> > Gottlieb married Christina
> > Goering in Rozyczcze  Parish in 1872.  Enestine
> > married Carl Scheulze in
> > 1866, also in Volhynia.  I have  a marriage record
> > for  Enestine and Carl
> > although I have never found them on the MPD.  I would like
> > to know if they
> > had children in Volhynia .  Gottlieb and his new family and
>
>