[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Chicago

[Joyce Guasch]

I will add to this thread, immigrants to Chicago in my family.

Immigrants of 1913: William Jalosky, spouse Ophelia Gurke Jalosky. The
census of 1920 has them in Forest Park Village, Croviso Township, boarders:
Adam Wentland and Gottlieb Natke. Census of 1930: Chicago City, Port 30
Precinct. Boarder: Sigismund Lemke. All appear to be from "Poland or Russia"
My known Gurke family lived in the Lublin area, coming from the Lipno area.
Family tells me Ophelia was "cousin or aunt." None of my research, has
connected her to my known Gurke family. 

William and Ophelia had two children: William Jordan born about 1923 and
Virginia abt 1927. Internet and Ancestry searches lead me to believe there
are no Jaloskys in the Chicago area at this time. Virginia married Joseph
Monroe Johnson in 1927. It is possible that they are both living or have
moved so far from the area that I am not able to pick out a death record for
either, name too common, too many possibilities.

I haven't found immigration records for the Jaloskys or their boarders, only
naturalization filings for William and Ophelia. 

I feel my next step is to find enough information to obtain a death
certificate on Ophelia, if the State of IL will allow it. She married again,
Albert Lohrman. She died in Nov 1971, Hanekamp Funeral Home handled
arrangements. I still have them to call to see if they can give me anymore
information. 

My father's sister, Teofelia Welke, came from Dubeczno to Halifax in 1913,
crossed the border and lived with them for a short time in Chicago (area),
before she moved to Oregon to Ludwig Jesse and Ottilie Gurke Jesse (Ottilie
is my grandmother's sister). I have a couple of photos taken when Ophelia
and Virginia came to Oregon to visit. This was after the death of Wm
Jalosky. 

That is the sum total of my information except for the schools that Virginia
attended. 

A search of all SGGEE databases has yielded me nothing for Jalosky or
Ophelia Gurke. 

Joyce Welke Guasch
of Springfield, OR
Researching: Welke, Gurke,
Ratz, Lentz, Zimmerman of East Poland
Haner, Lindley, Wisbey, Bailey,
of the US and Germany
  

-----Original Message-----
From: ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org
[mailto:ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org] On Behalf Of Sue
Eipert
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 8:45 AM
To: Kenneth Browne
Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Chicago

Kenneth (and all),

I'm starting a new thread related to the Chicago part of your message.

Where in Chicago was your grandfather born?

I'm always interested in hearing about Germans from Poland that immigrated
to Chicago. My grandmother Anna Kopp came there from near Chodecz (powiat of
Włocławek) to join her brother. My grandfather Johann Radtke came to Chicago
from Crimea to join his cousin, Wilhelm Radtke, who had just arrived from
Poland (he was born in the Plock area).

They were married by Pastor Martin P.F. Doermann at Zion Evangelical
Lutheran Church in 1905, and their first four children (including my
father) were born there.

I have addresses for them and some relatives as well as the church; they are
all in the areas of Chicago called South Chicago or East Side.

Susan Radtke Eipert
seipert2 at gmail.com



On 10/5/2011 5:22 AM, Kenneth Browne wrote:
> On 10/04/2011 10:56 PM, Albert Muth wrote:
>> For example, my grandfather was born in the parish of Przedecz, 
>> located in the powiat of Włocławek in the Warszawa gouvernate, *143 
>> kilometers* to the West of the capital city.  While knowing the 
>> gubernia narrows your search somewhat, records are not indexed in a
central location anywhere in Poland.
>> (Many US states have always had centralized indices, though these are 
>> not necessarily available online).
>>
> In your example of your grandfather you've raised a question that has 
> been in my mind for some time now.
> It involves the use of the terms, "parish" "powiat" and "gubernia" How 
> do these terms compare to the birth information below.
>
> My grandfather was born in USA, Illinois, Cook County, Chicago and I 
> even know the street address.
>
> His father's birth information from the SGGEE databases
>
> Surname       Given Name     Birth Day and Month Birth Year     Event
> Place
> Lachmann     Samuel             23 Sep             1865
>                          Roschischtsche
> Father                  Mother                Film or Item     Page
> Number     Register     Remarks
> Gottfried             Wolf, Julianna     1884089/1       666
>              113             Bereske
>
>   From what I can gather from all sources that I've found so far 
> Samuel Lachmann was born in Roschischtsche, Volhynia (Helenow, 
> Wolynskie, Poland).
>
> As near as I can figure it comparing my great grandfather to my 
> grandfather it would be as follows:
>
> Poland, Volhynia (Wolynskie), Helenow, Roschischtsche(Rozysche
>
> The remark Bereske also puzzles me. Is it a place name? Which name 
> would be the powiat. I haven't seen that term before. Volhynia is the 
> gubernia and Roschischtsche the parish I think :-\ .
>
>
>
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