Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ev.-Augsb. church records of Ilów, Sochaczew county, PL

Sat Jul 2 12:23:07 PDT 2011

I also did some research in the Ilow Evangelical-Augsburg records at the Grodzisk archives in 2009.  It is about an hour train ride on a local line from Warsaw.  It was a nice facility with plenty of desks and a very friendly, professional and helpful staff.  However, it had limited opening hours, so it was good to get there right when they opened, and ideally to already know from the online catalog the information needed to pull records so one could work efficiently to do as much as possible in the time available.  I was working with records from the 1850s, which were in good shape.  They are not available on microfilm from the Family History Library.

Worth Anderson

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From: sandra stelter <sandrastelter2004 at yahoo.ca>
To: BirgitSteinke&GerhardAJabs <Steinke.Jabs at t-online.de>; "ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org" <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2011 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ev.-Augsb. church records of Ilów, Sochaczew county, PL

Gerhard,

Our experience with Grodzisk was almost two years ago. On a September 2009 trip to Poland, we made a brief stop there to search for an Ilow record. We easily found records of interest, but because our time in Poland was running out, we couldn't dig as deep as we would have liked. We requested photocopies but were told they could not do it on the spot because they were extremely short-staffed. Grodzisk is a branch of the Warsaw archives. The director comes only on Wednesdays (when Grocziek is closed to the public). Resources and staff tend to go to Warsaw rather than Grodzisk.

They made a note of our request, we paid the fee (cheap! 6 PLN for four records), and were told they would send the records by e-mail, but not to expect anything for many months!

I figured we may never hear from them again, but amazingly four records were in my inbox in a matter of weeks!

So yes, the records are there! To my knowledge they are not on LDS film. Our best advice would be to make the trip yourself (with a translator/guide/interpreter if you don't know the language), or to hire someone to do it for you.  We would have been looped without Magda, a fantastic guide we found through  http://www.discovering-roots.pl/info.htm

Good luck,
Sandra Stelter

From: BirgitSteinke&GerhardAJabs <Steinke.Jabs at t-online.de>
To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2011 4:56:00 AM
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ev.-Augsb. church records of Ilów, Sochaczew county, PL

  Dear fellow researchers,

on 24. November 2010 I wrote a letter to the
Archiwum Panstwowe m. st. Warszawy
- Oddzial w Grodzisku Mazowieckim -
ul. Poniatowskiego 14
PL-05-825 Grodzisk Mazowiecki, Polska,
asking for a copy of a birth/baptism
certificate and did not get any reply.

On 12. May 2011 I wrote an email to APW.Grodzisk at Warszawa.AP.Gov.pl ,
asking again for a copy of the same certificate, but I only received the message, that they
had opened my email.

By the Pradziad database ( http://baza.archiwa.gov.pl/sezam/pradziad.php?l=en ) you can see,
that the Ev.-Augsb. church records of Ilów, Sochaczew county are stored in the Grodzisk
Archives:
http://baza.archiwa.gov.pl/sezam/pradziad.php?l=en&mode=showopis&id=128&miejscowosc=I%B3%F3w&wyznanie_id=8

I'm looking for the birth/baptism certificate of Hulda
Sommer, born on 16. July 1880 in Ilów
(Sochaczew county), daughter of Samuel Sommer and Emilia nee Konrad. - Hulda Sommer married
Robert Jabs (youngest brother of my great-grandfather Eduard August Jabs) on 13 October 1903
in West Duluth, MN.

a) Has anyone any experience with the Grodzisk Archives?
b) Is there any LSD film about the birth/baptism certificates of the year 1880? I did not
find any hint at "> 
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titlefilmnotes&columns=*%2C0%2C0&titleno=131782&disp=Ksiegi+metrykalne++
<" (Please copy the link completely including the ending "++".)

I would be very thankful for any reply!

Gerhard A.
Jabs
Ahrensburg,
Germany

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> 2. Re: Jabs in central Poland (Hannes Werner)
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:15:11 +0200
> From: "Hannes Werner" <mailto:Hannes.Werner at online.de>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Jabs in central Poland
> To: "Heidi Champagne" <mailto:purposedrivenheidi at hotmail.com>,
>     <mailto:ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
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> 
> Hello Heidi,
> 
> there is a source you should know !
> In the index-project of genealodzy.pl there are many Lau and Jabs/Jobs in 
> the area north and west of Warsaw.
> Choose genealodzy.pl with www
> - then: left side geneteka
> - then: choose magnifier symbol (third from left) in above menu
> - then: write Lau or Jabs or Jobs in "nazwisko" = name
> -then: enter "Wyszukaj" = search
> In the following list you might be interested in the mazowieckie-area.
> So: first choose 66 urodzenia= births in "mazowieckie", and you'll find the 
> first Lau persons in Mazovia.
> Very,very imortant!!! : ALWAYS set the "pozycji na stronie" from 20 to 50 
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Always!
>
Remember: Although the most church records of genealodzy are from 
> roman-catholic parishes - there are many, many, many entries of Lutherans 
> !!!!
> 
> You will get back to last site with "back" of your browser.
> Try same procedure with Jabs or Jobs - you will find many persons !
> 
> One more advice:
> When you choosed 66 urodzenia/births of mazowieckie - there is a birth(for 
> example!) of Anna Ludwika Lau (Anna Luise) in 1844 at Ilow parish. Often 
> there is an explanation on the "i" at end of line. Show with mouse on this 
> "i" and you'll see : miejscowosc Arciechow (place in parish of Ilow),
> 1844.05.03 means: 5th March 1844, rodzice means parents: Gottfried and Anna 
> Lau;
> 
> Greatest hit is, when there is a "scan"-symbol. !!!! Note the Akt-No. in the 
> list for Anna Ludwika:
> it is 74!
> Then click on scan - and choose
073-078.jpg (because there is 74 in 
> between).
> The birth record of Anna Ludwika is the second on the left side !
> ONE click on the picture magnifies it.
> Then you may read: Gottfried Lau from Arciechow, age, together with Peter 
> Wiese, age, and Michael
> WERNER, age, ... there was born a child from Gottfried's wife Anna Lau, age, 
> namend Anna Ludwika (Anna Luise); Godparents: Maria Witt from Arciechow, ...
> 
> 
> Sorry, I have no exact "match" for you, but this source might help you a 
> little bit to find connections.
> 
> Hannes W.
> Germany
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Heidi Champagne" <mailto:purposedrivenheidi at hotmail.com>
> To: <mailto:ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 4:15 AM
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Jabs in central Poland
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:45:14 +0200
> From: "Hannes Werner" <mailto:Hannes.Werner at online.de>
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] To all: Poland - scans of church
>     records
> To: <mailto:ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
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> 
> Again - Information to all members:
>
The Polish states archives have begun to scan church records and put it online !
> 
> You'll find the project on:
> 
> szukajwarchiwach.pl
> 
> - on top at "search archives" write: "cywilnego" or "metrykalne"
> (You may also choose any name of place - in POLISH !!!)
> - on next site and left: choose "Search only fonds/units with digital copies" and "search" again 
> 
> Here is the beginning of the list:
> 
> 53/1857/0
> Urzad Stanu Cywilnego Grodzisk - obw?d miejski (pow. nowotomyski)
> 53/1858/0
> Urzad Stanu Cywilnego Grodzisk - obw?d wiejski (pow. nowotomyski)
> 35/1641/0
> Akta stanu cywilnego Parafii Rzymskokatolickiej w Abramowicach
> 53/3811/0
> Akta stanu cywilnego Parafii Ewangelickiej Lipia G?ra (pow. chodzieski)
> 35/1645/0
> Akta stanu cywilnego Parafii Rzymskokatolickiej w Bialej
> 35/1646/0
> Akta stanu
cywilnego Parafii Rzymskokatolickiej w Bilgoraju
> 35/1642/0
> Akta stanu cywilnego Parafii Rzymskokatolickiej w Adamowie
> 35/1643/0
> Akta stanu cywilnego Parafii Rzymskokatolickiej w Baranowie
> 35/1644/0
> Akta stanu cywilnego Parafii Rzymskokatolickiej w Belzycach
> 53/3795/0
> Akta stanu cywilnego Parafii Ewangelickiej Kobylin (pow. krotoszynski)
> 53/3798/0
> Akta stanu cywilnego Parafii Ewangelickiej Koscian
> 53/3767/0
> Akta stanu cywilnego Parafii Ewangelickiej Bnin (pow. sremski)
> 53/3778/0
> Akta stanu cywilnego Parafii Ewangelickiej Czerniejewo (pow. gnieznienski)
> 53/3780/0
> Akta stanu cywilnego Parafii Ewangelickiej Dobrzyca (pow. pleszewski)
> 53/3805/0
> Akta stanu cywilnego Parafii Ewangelickiej Kwiejce (pow. czarnkowski)
> 53/3814/0
> Akta stanu cywilnego Parafii Ewangelickiej Miejska G?rka (pow. rawicki)
>
53/3816/0
> Akta stanu cywilnego Parafii Ewangelickiej Murowana Goslina (pow. obornicki)
> 53/3742/0
> Akta stanu cywilnego Okregu B?zniczego Blaszki (pow. kaliski)
> 72/1214/0
> Akta stanu cywilnego parafii rzymskokatolickiej sw. Barbary w Warszawie
> 72/171/0
> Akta stanu cywilnego parafii rzymskokatolickiej Wniebowziecia NMP (Zerzen)
> 72/1215/0
> Akta stanu cywilnego parafii rzymskokatolickiej sw. Tr?jcy w Warszawie
> 72/1216/0
> Akta stanu cywilnego parafii rzymskokatolickiej Przemienienia Panskiego w Warszawie
> 53/3237/0
> Akta stanu cywilnego Parafii Rzymskokatolickiej Baszk?w (pow. krotoszynski)
> 53/3238/0
> Akta stanu cywilnego Parafii Rzymskokatolickiej Benice (pow. krotoszynski)
> 53/3239/0
> Akta stanu cywilnego Parafii Rzymskokatolickiej Bialcz (pow. koscianski)
> 
> .................
> 
> Sometimes there are only
a few years scanned of a parish, but there are also complete church records.
> Tell me if you need further help
> 
> Hannes W.
> Germany
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