[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] WINTERs and HAUSCH families of Zhitomir prior to 1904

[Jerry Frank]

Katherine,

Unfortunately I cannot help to answer your question about where to look to extend your research past the 1830s.  Perhaps we can help to clean up the story a bit.

As George stated, the detail of Peter's disappearance is wrong but he still could have been conscripted into the Russian Army, sent east, and disappeared.  

Next, it is important to understand where your people lived in context.  You mention both Zhitomir and Rozyszce as residences.  This may well be a time dependent issue and relate to their parish of residence rather than actual location.  If you go to http://www.sggee.org/research/parishes/parish_histories/church_history.html and click on the Parish Diagram link, you will see how the parish names overlapped over time.  It is quite possible that your family always lived in the Rozyszce region even though they were identified as from Zhitomir.

If that is the case, then be aware that there are original Rozyszce Parish records are available post 1885 which are not part of the St. Pete records.  We have started to index them but the process is not complete.  They might provide some clues for you about Peter and his family.  The microfilm numbers are available on http://www.sggee.org/research/parishes/church_parishes/LutheransInVolhyniaKievPodolia.html 

Hope this helps a little.

Jerry




----- Original Message -----
From: George Shoning <shoning at q.com>
Date: Thursday, September 23, 2010 5:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] WINTERs and HAUSCH families of Zhitomir prior to 1904
To: katherinemjeffrey at gmail.com, ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org

> 
> 
> Katherine,
>  
> One comment on your family's lore regarding the bolsheviks 
> taking Peter Winter away.  The bolsheviks did not take 
> control in Russia until their revolution of October 1917.  
> I believe it actually was not until the 1930s that the majority 
> of Volhynian Germans disappeared due to bolshevik (communist) action.
>  
> George
>  
>   
> > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:46:54 -1000
> > From: katherinemjeffrey at gmail.com
> > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] WINTERs and HAUSCH families of 
> Zhitomir prior to 1904
> > 
> > I am looking for information on these families. Wilhelm and 
> Rosalia WINTER
> > (b. abt 1835 & 1839) were my gggrandparents. Their son Peter 
> m. Luise
> > HANSCH Mar 27, 1885. These were my ggrandparents. I can't 
> finad any
> > records for him, but family lore says the bolsheviks took him 
> away and he
> > was never seen again (probably after their youngest was 
> conceived in 1897
> > and before wife emigrated to Canada in 1904?) His sister 
> Julianna WINTER
> > was b. Sep 18, 1875 in Marianin. She later married a widower, 
> much older
> > than she was, a Wilhelm KROLL. The KROLLs emigrated through 
> Ellis Island
> > w/her WINTER parents in the late 1890s/1900. WINTERs also had 
> a son/brother
> > Michael who died Jan 30, 1880 in Rozyszce parish, Lezachow. 
> Amelia WINTER,
> > a daughter/sister had her baby, Adolf, there in 1883. Amelia 
> WINTER went
> > on to marry August HANSCH, brother of Luise in the 1880s 
> (can't find a
> > record) and they had 12 children, 7 of whom died in a smallpox 
> epidemic in
> > 1905. I believe there were a couple more HANSCHs who remained 
> in Zhitomir,
> > Adam and Stefan. A sister, Karolina HANSCH, emigrated either 
> before or
> > after marrying a man w/the last name MAIER (I think...) I 
> don't know where
> > else to look besides the St. Petersberg Extractions. I believe
> > Luise(Louise) died somehwere in Strathcona, Alta, but I don't 
> know when.
> > She lived with her daughters' families there; they married 
> OTTO and
> > BABLITZ. I assume they are buried in some Lutheran Cemetery. 
> I'm new to
> > this website and new to searching for information outside the 
> US. Can
> > anyone help me with these families?
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