[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Nass and Krebs families

[Gary Warner]

Dana,

In the St. Petersburg birth records, I only see one Nass born in 
Sergenthal, and the mother does not appear to be a Krebs.

Nass "August,
"
17 Aug 1878
Segental
Zhitomir
Gottlieb
Marie Wiesse
1897596-1/1882 603 835

I do not see any Nass- Krebs connection in the St. Petersburg data.

Gary Warner

On 6/25/2010 3:52 PM, Rose Ingram wrote:
> Dana
>
> Your assumptions are correct.  The Town is Gombin (German) Gabin (Polish).  But it is not in Prussia, the country clerk probably misunderstood it for Russia, which is what a lot of people referred to in this area.
>
> Nonetheless, I have looked at the copy of the hand written indexes from Gabin church records.  I see Adolf Hass born in 1874 with birth registered as #245 (which may be a December birth).
> I see Julius Hass born in 1876 birth registered as #101 (could be June).
>
> These records are on LDS film #1201378 which you obtain through a Family History Center.
>
> I hope this little bit helps you back track the Nass family in Poland.
>
> Rose Ingram
>
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: Dana Fossum
>    To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
>    Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 2:40 PM
>    Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Nass and Krebs families
>
>    Hello everyone,
>
>    I have just joined SGGEE and want to say hello and express my thanks for
>    this group. I am the granddaughter of Germans from Volhynia and have many
>    questions I hope the members of this group can help me with for I am not
>    sure of the facts of the oral history of my family that I grew up with. The
>    object of my research is Nass and Krebs families, which are closely
>    intertwined by the marriages of three siblings from each family to each
>    other. My grandfather Julius Nass and his older brother Adolf were
>    supposedly born near Warsaw in 1876 and 1875 although through some detective
>    work I have reason to believe it was closer to Gombin (Gumbien?) in Prussia
>    as the county clerk in Iowa who took their naturalization application
>    recorded their birthplace as "Jomben". In around 1878 they moved to Volhynia
>     where a third son was born in Segental. According to my father who passed
>    away 20 years ago the Nasses and Krebs were member of the same (Evangelical
>    Lutheran) "colony that took up a 99-year lease in the brushlands and had to
>    built their own roads, churches, schools etc." My first question is whether
>    this fits with the facts. If not, how were the settlements organized? Are
>    there any books or articles describing the economy and activities of these
>    settlements?
>
>    Adolf served in six years in the military, including in Manchuria, where he
>    met German-speaking American soldiers who told him he should come to Iowa.
>    When he returned from the war, he did just that, emigrating to Whittemore,
>    Iowa in 1906 to a German settlement there. He was 31 years old by then. With
>    his brother gone, my grandfather Julius Nass "feared being recalled into the
>    service. He had an honorable discharge but had not served long enough to get
>    a pass to get out of Russia." Another relative has questioned whether my
>    grandfather actually did military service as she claims only one son in each
>    family had to serve. So my second question is is this true, did only one son
>    have to serve?
>
>    Whatever happened, my grandparents were not free to leave so in the spring
>    of 1907 they and a group of other people hired an agent from Zhitomir to
>    smuggle them out of the country. According to family legend, they walked
>    overland, hiding in haystacks along the way to avoid detection. Eventually,
>    they reached Antwerp, where they boarded a ship bound for Canada and then
>    traveled by train to Iowa, joining Adolf in June of that year. On the
>    practical side, however, I wonder how such a group which included very small
>    children and my very pregnant grandmother could have hauled a rather large
>    steamer trunk with them filled with their feather ticks and provisions and
>    still avoid detection. (A cousin still has the trunk and a tick.) Do any
>    other members of the group have similar escape stories? What would have been
>    the most likely route out of that part of Volhynia near Nowograd-Wolynsk?
>
>    I have found other members of these families who are listed in the EWZ files
>    and hope to mine these files for further information. Are there any SGGEE
>    members in the D.C. area who do this type of work and what do they typically
>    charge?
>
>    Thank you,
>
>    Dana Naas Fossum
>
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