[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Origin of given ame ILSE

[Christian Lucht]

I would assume, this rhyme comes from Saxony.
Christian

2010/6/3 Rita Lyster <rlyster at telusplanet.net>:
> Just as a random note, has anyone heard of the rhyme:  Ilse, Ilse, keiner
> wilse? !!
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> Rita Lyster
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> On Jun 2, 2010, Günther Böhm <GHBoehm at ish.de> wrote:
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> Eduardo Kommers schrieb:
>> Hello!
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>> Is there any suggestion of the origin place/country/region where the given
>> name ILSE was more common, out of Volhynia?
>> I'm asking this because I found a marriage record in Zhitomir from 1885,
>> the bride was ILSE KOMMERS, anyway there is no other record with the name
>> ILSE.
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>> Thank you,
>> Eduardo
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> Hello Eduardo,
> Ilse is an abbrevation of Elisabeth and has been quite common in all
> Germany about hundred years ago. Some more centuries resp. decades back
> the abbrevations were Ilsebe, Ilsabe and Ilsabein.
> Ilse was also the given name of one of my aunts (born 1908, sister of my
> father). Also the abbrevation Ilse is centuries older but was then just
> in use by the higher nobility. In the central German Harz mountains you
> find a river Ilse (and three others elsewhere), a town Ilsenburg and a
> myth about a princess Ilse which was hunted by a count Bodo and on
> horseback she happened to jump over a deep and wide valley whereas Bodo
> crashed down into the depths. The earliest *real* Ilse I found is Ilse
> von GERA, born after 1370, daughter of Heinrich V. von GERA, followed by
> Ilsabe [Ilse] v.STEINBERG, * abt 1360, + after 1399.
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> Günther
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