[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Krueger line and locations in Lipno, Russian Poland
MIKE MCHENRY
maurmike1 at verizon.net
Thu Dec 2 10:22:22 PST 2010
Erick
My Manzei line comes from Lipno. My grandmother Auguste (b.1883) father was
named Ferdinand. He had three wives Rosalie Brese, Eva Pankratz and last was
Ludowika Krueger. The time period was about 1880-1906. If you come across
the Manzei surname please let me know.
MIKE
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From: ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org
[mailto:ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org] On Behalf Of Linda
Marks Pauling
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 12:20 PM
To: Erick Krueger; ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Krueger line and locations in Lipno, Russian
Poland
Hello Erick,
I have looked at the microfilm of the confirmation records from the
Evangelical Church in Lipno for 1867-1906 (#2,150,611). I checked the years
1885-1895 and found:
1892 Krueger, Ottilie, Lipno, parents David Krueger and Anna Paul, born 6
Dec 1877. page 294, line 102
1895 Krueger, Michal, Lipno, parents David Krueger and Anna Pahl, born 18
Sept 1880, page 332, line 85
I have photos of these records but some are not very clear. There are a few
other Krueger families in these records. In 1889 there is a Fryderyk Krueger
from Lipno born 13 Nov 1874. I cannot read the names of the parents clearly
but I can see that it is "Da.... and Anna..." but it may be "Anna Ill???"
You may want to order this film at a Family History Library and view it more
completely.
Perhaps you will find a Fryderyk Krueger in the census or marriage records
in MI.
I have begun to put these records onto an excel sheet which can be searched,
but am only up to 1878. I did search that data base and note that in 1870
there is a confirmation for a Karolina Krueger, Lipno, father David, birth
1856.
Also August Krueger, Lipno, father David, born 1859 and confirmed 1874. This
may be the same family one generation further back.
(The earlier records do not list the mother's name or the birth dates.)
Since the Lipno bmd records are filmed only until 1865, you will need to get
a marriage record for your David Krueger and Anna Pahl/Paul from the
Archives in Wloclawek or the Evangelical Archives in Berlin which will
reveal their parents' names and enable you to go back another generation and
search in the earlier filmed records.
This does give you the evidence that your family was in the Evangelical
Church in Lipno in these years.
Linda Pauling
"... for such a time as this..." Esther 4:14
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From: "Erick Krueger" <erickkrueger at gmail.com>
To: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 1:52 PM
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Looking for any help on my Krueger line
andlocations in Russian Poland
Hi,
A few months back, I had posted on one of the boards @ ancestry.com,
and Jeff Frank was kind enough to offer some thoughts and had referred
me to this mail group.
There are two relatives in question that I'm looking to get more
information, and in particular, prove the next generation with more
certainty.
Their names are Michael Krüger and Otillie Krüger.
Michael is my great-grandfather, and Otillie is his sister.
Michael was born 18 Sep 1880, and passed away in 1970.
He arrived in the USA on 14 Apr 1900, sailing on the SS Frankfurt from
Bremen to Baltimore.
His record in the passenger manifest shows a Michel Krüger, and it
shows that he is going to his sister, Otillie in Detroit, Michigan.
Michael's record says that he is from "Radomice", Russia.
He is traveling with a cousin, Eva Renwautz, as well. Eva's record
appears to say "Norgowo", but further discussions might have it be
"Morgowo".
Otillie Krueger was born 6 Dec 1876 (perhaps 6 dec 1877 per some documents).
Otillie Krueger got married in 1901 (in Detroit, MI to Herman
Scharlinski). It's written on the register of marriages that her
parents were Peter Krueger and Anna Paul. However, on her SS-5 (which
was lost and an OAC-790 sent instead), shows that she was born in
Germany, and that her parents were David Krueger and Anna Paul.
So, I've been trying to use the places of last residence to
triangulate where Michael might have lived. I know that there is more
than one Radomice in Poland, but the one that seemed likely (to me) is
the one outside of Lipno. I've been guessing that Scepanki might be
a mis-spelling of Sczczepanki, Poland; which is also close to that
Radomice and Lipno. I'm assuming that the cousin couldn't have lived
too far away in that day and time since they travelled together, so
have been looking for the Norgowo/Morgowo in that same area.
There is rumor that Michael and Otillie had another brother that came
over and was in the Detroit area (at least briefly), but no one in the
family really knows.
I would love to find some sort of information/validation of exactly
where Michael/Otillie came from, and even better would be to put more
information about their parents. For example, I have no B-M-D
information for either parent -- just names from the marriage register
and SS-5's of Michael and Otillie, and would be grateful for any
information out there.
I'd definitely appreciate any help folks might have.
Thanks much for your time,
Erick Krueger
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