[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] village name

albertmuth at aol.com albertmuth at aol.com
Thu Apr 29 12:30:51 PDT 2010


Eleanor,


You asked a very good question.  I will be able to send an answer tomorrow once I get back to my home computer. 
I am out for the day today.


Al





-----Original Message-----
From: Eleanor <ehaas3 at cox.net>
To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org; albertmuth at aol.com
Sent: Thu, Apr 29, 2010 12:31 pm
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] village name


There is lots of information there, but how does one know which gazetteer to look at?  There are enough there to keep me busy for many years!!  Thanks, Eleanor 
 
----- Original Message ----- From: <albertmuth at aol.com> 
To: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org> 
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 7:15 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] village name 
 
 
Hi Barb, 
 
Jerry has correctly identified the town, pinpointed its location, and given you its current name. 
 
If you are interested in Lutheran or Catholic church records, or civil registration, the easy online 
source for determining this for West Prussia is in the "East and West Prussia Gazetteer" at 
http://www.progenealogists.com/germany/prussia/index.html, which is based on the Prussian 
census that was taken in 1905 (no family data like USA, Canadian Or UK censuses, in case any one 
wants to know; just statistics). 
 
In 1905, Klein Bösendorf was in the Lutheran parish of Gross Bösendorf, the Catholic parish of 
Scharnau, and the civil registration district of Bösendorf. 
 
The status of availability of church registers from the Thorn area is given at 
http://www.westpreussen.de/kirchenbuch/kirchenbuch.php?landkreis=Thorn 
And it turns out, the parish of Gross Bösendorf was formed in 1903. 
Before that, the records were in Gurske, now Górsk. 
 
Now, if you look at the LDS library catalog, you will see that they have 
filmed from 1614 to 1865 for births and marriages.  Deaths go later. 
Disappointing, but take a look at the date of filming, 1959 and 1969. 
The end date is based on privacy laws (the filming was likely done in 1965, 
and was "published" on the catalog in 1969). 
 
Go back to the German-language website, and see what it says about 
Gurske.  Records are in three places:  State Archives in Torun (Thorn), 
Evangelisches Zentralarchiv in Berlin, and LDS. 
 
Don't be afraid to use websites in foreign languages.  You can use Google 
to translate the webpage!  In a separate window, open up google.com. 
When you hold your mouse to the right of the google search box, some 
clickable options appear.  In English, choose "Language Tools"; 
"Sprachoptionen" in German. 
 
On this new google page, look for the option (bottom of screen) "Translate 
a Web Page" (or "Webseite übersetzen). 
 
Go back to the window that has the foreign language website.  Highlight 
and copy (right click, copy), then go back to the google window, and 
paste over the box below "Translate a Web Page". 
 
Select the source and target language, and google will do the translation. 
Human language is far more complex than what machine translation 
can handle.  But, I find that the translation is generally tolerable.  You 
get the general idea. 
 
Good luck, in whichever direction your search takes you. 
 
Al Muth 
 
 
 
-----Original Message----- 
From: Barb Yantha <byantha at gmail.com> 
To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org 
Sent: Wed, Apr 28, 2010 7:34 pm 
Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] village name 
 
Hello All, 
Could anyone offer a suggestion as to how to find a place name?  The village 
as once known as Klein Bossendorf.  How do I find out what the village is 
alled now?  It is a village around the Torun area.  Thanks! 
Barb 
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