[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Anyone on the list had any DNA testing done

[gswilson19 at aol.com]

Otto,

?? Thank you so much for writing to me.? This is all new to me and I am just starting to try to learn more.? You sound very educated in this.? I had my paternal side tested through 23andme.com? - 33 markers.? I had my mothers paternal side (her uncle) through familytreedna.com? - 12 markers.? 50,000 markers is very impressive.? I can only imagine what that cost you!? The haplotree that comes back for both sides is R1a1.

Gail


-----Original Message-----
From: Otto <otto at schienke.com>
To: Gswilson19 at aol.com
Sent: Sat, 2 May 2009 3:38 pm
Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Anyone on the list had any DNA testing done


I am certain some have tested for DNA results.?
Some companies test for "STR" results, some test for "SNP" results.?
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Haplogroups are useful if they contain sub-claves (subgroups)?
A R1 haplogroup states very little. Most of Western Europe types R1 where it is clustered in various national populations.?
This is too broad spectrum to qualify anything more than a generic belonging to a huge group of people.?
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In your question you ask what haplogroup ancestors are from??
Who was the company testing you??
This is in reference to:?
Paternal Haplogroup??
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Maternal mitochondrial DNA based Haplogroup??
The test should provide both.?
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My son and I submitted to DNA testing, with <23andme.com>, a 50,000 marker "SNP" test, by recommendation of Mark D. Shriver, molecular anthropologist at Penn State University. The test includes information on 22 chromosomes with special attention to the Y chromosome and the mitochondrial DNA markers.?
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The paternal haplogroup returned is "R1b1c9"?
The haplogroup is broken down as "R" "1" "b" "1" "c" "9"?
R1b1c4 is characteristic of the Basque,?
R1b1c7 reaches its peak in Ireland?
R1b1c9 is most commonly found on the fringes of the North Sea.?
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Comparing this discovery with secondary evidence accumulated over the years, we zeroed in on East Frisia.?
Two pieces of secondary evidence:?
1. My surname (Schienke) containing the ancient "ie" diphthong.?
(It pointed to Dutch or East Frisian origin, leaning toward the Frisian)?
2. In a textbook written 1804 containing "echte" (authentic) Frisian surnames,"Schienke" was one of them. (much more evidence than can be aired here)?
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3. I googled my surname "Schienke Niedersachsen" (Lower Saxony) (the Frisian areas are now Dutch and German-Lower Saxony) and found that many "Schienke" still live and are buried there.?
(After 500 years. . . Home at last!)?
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My son's maternal haplogroup showed a streak of Atilla in it so he had a special test performed with his personal genome information which also contained a test for Ashkenazi markers. The result: 0.00% Ashkenazi.?
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I can inquire of him where the test was performed.?
DNA testing is a new science without standardization yet is growing rapidly in expertise daily.?
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It would behoove all not to quickly jump to conclusions on origin with a palmful of information possessed.?
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Genetic typing using DNA is a new field very similar to computer software in the 1990's. It lacks standardization. Every company wants to "posture" first in line in the marketplace. We have "str's" and "snp's" used to define ethnicity.. We also have varying number systems for haplogroup comparison with different organizations.?
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On May 2, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Gswilson19 at aol.com wrote:?
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> I'm curious whether anyone on this list has had DNA testing done on > themselves or their relatives.? And if so, what Haplo group they > found their ancestors to be from.?
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> Gail?
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. . . Otto?
? " The Zen moment..." wk. of January 04, 2009-?
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? "The future. . . . always catches up."?
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