[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Location of Moronesch, Russia

Sun Mar 1 07:05:44 PST 2009

In our family EWZ52 records I found the name of "Moronesch" Russia as the 
location of my mother's family from 1915 through 1918?
I am wondering if anyone has come accross that name and as to where it is 
located or anything on how the people from Rovno, Zdolbunow areas where 
transported there.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ger-poland-volhynia-request at eclipse.sggee.org>
To: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 9:40 PM
Subject: Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 69, Issue 24


> Send Ger-Poland-Volhynia mailing list submissions to
> ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> http://eclipse.sggee.org/mailman/listinfo/ger-poland-volhynia
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> ger-poland-volhynia-request at eclipse.sggee.org
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> ger-poland-volhynia-owner at eclipse.sggee.org
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of Ger-Poland-Volhynia digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>   1. older map site (James Murphy)
>   2. Re: DREGER, MEISSNER, WENDLAND, MILBRADT and ZYRARDOW
>      (MIKE MCHENRY)
>   3. Re: older map site (MIKE MCHENRY)
>   4. Dreger (Carol Duff)
>   5. Re: DREGER, MEISSNER, WENDLAND, MILBRADT and ZYRARDOW
>      (Jerry Frank)
>   6. Re: DREGER, MEISSNER, WENDLAND, MILBRADT and ZYRARDOW
>      (joepessarra)
>   7. Help from the experts! (Beth Burke)
>   8. Re: Help from the experts! (joepessarra)
>   9. Re: Help from the experts! (Karl Krueger)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:43:07 -0500
> From: "James Murphy" <jfcmurphy at ntcnet.com>
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] older map site
> To: "German-Poland" <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> Message-ID: <55DF3BE4F5E543298361D9FD5DD1F07F at hal>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> To Janine & Delores,
> This is a website that gives older maps of Europe including Poland & 
> Russia. This may be of help in locating your cites: 
> www.feefhs.org/maplibrary.html
> Carol
> jfcmurphy at ntcnet.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:58:20 -0500
> From: "MIKE MCHENRY" <maurmike1 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] DREGER, MEISSNER, WENDLAND,
> MILBRADT and ZYRARDOW
> To: <jankohl57 at aol.com>, <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> Message-ID: <000c01c999e7$49f248c0$ddd6da40$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> You might try Jutta Dennerlein's http://www.upstreamvistula.org has quite 
> a
> bit about the area.
>
>
> MIKE
>
> maurmike1 at verizon.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org
> [mailto:ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org] On Behalf Of
> jankohl57 at aol.com
> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 12:34 PM
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] DREGER, MEISSNER, WENDLAND, MILBRADT and
> ZYRARDOW
>
>
> Hi folks..just wondering if anyone knows of any local genealogy or
> historical web sites for the ZYRARDOW, WISKITKI, BLONIE area just west of
> Warsaw.? Also, I seem to recall someone mentioning a website that you can
> look up cities/towns by their old name and see what they were called in
> Russian, German or Polish, and what they are called now.? Can someone 
> direct
> me to that please??
> There is a city just west of Warsaw called Piastow.? What other names has
> this been called?? I haven't been to SGGEE for a while, so I will re-post
> may family names of DREGER, MEISSNER, WENDLAND AND MILDRADT.
> Thank you..Janine Gulich
>
> _______________________________________________
> Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by
> Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org
> Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:03:23 -0500
> From: "MIKE MCHENRY" <maurmike1 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] older map site
> To: "'James Murphy'" <jfcmurphy at ntcnet.com>, "'German-Poland'"
> <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> Message-ID: <000d01c999e7$fe956af0$fbc040d0$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> You might also try http://www.mapywig.org/news.php . It has inter war maps
> 1919-1939 of Poland. They are extremely detailed.
>
>
> MIKE
>
> maurmike1 at verizon.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org
> [mailto:ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org] On Behalf Of James
> Murphy
> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 3:43 PM
> To: German-Poland
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] older map site
>
> To Janine & Delores,
> This is a website that gives older maps of Europe including Poland & 
> Russia.
> This may be of help in locating your cites: www.feefhs.org/maplibrary.html
> Carol
> jfcmurphy at ntcnet.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by
> Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org
> Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:21:16 -0600
> From: Carol Duff <cmduff at redwing.net>
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Dreger
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Message-ID: 4c4b22cc7ecf8111546f79ca5818a054
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>
>> There are a lot of Dregers in Volhynia also, and from there to Alberta 
>> Canada. Part of my Schumann, Freimann families tie in there. Carol
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:47:45 -0700
> From: Jerry Frank <FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] DREGER, MEISSNER, WENDLAND,
> MILBRADT and ZYRARDOW
> To: jankohl57 at aol.com
> Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Message-ID: <49A9CD21.30200 at shaw.ca>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Janine,
>
> The four place names you mention have always been known by those names
> in any language.  They are all original Polish and I have no record of
> any German or Russian versions that vary from that.  It is possible they
> were renamed with German versions in the WW II period but I have no
> record of it.
>
> I don't know of any sites for these locations specific to genealogy.  A
> GOOGLE search shows that they all have their own websites, most of
> course in the Polish language.  Zyarardow at least has a section of
> historical photos, most detailing the cloth making industry in that
> area.  Our own SGGEE site has a page dedicated to Zyarardow.
>
>
>
> Jerry Frank
> Calgary, AB
>
>
>
> jankohl57 at aol.com wrote:
>> Hi folks..just wondering if anyone knows of any local genealogy or 
>> historical web sites for the ZYRARDOW, WISKITKI, BLONIE area just west of 
>> Warsaw.? Also, I seem to recall someone mentioning a website that you can 
>> look up cities/towns by their old name and see what they were called in 
>> Russian, German or Polish, and what they are called now.? Can someone 
>> direct me to that please??
>> There is a city just west of Warsaw called Piastow.? What other names has 
>> this been called?? I haven't been to SGGEE for a while, so I will re-post 
>> may family names of DREGER, MEISSNER, WENDLAND AND MILDRADT.
>> Thank you..Janine Gulich
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by
>> Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org
>> Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:59:50 -0600
> From: "joepessarra" <joepessarra at suddenlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] DREGER, MEISSNER, WENDLAND,
> MILBRADT and ZYRARDOW
> To: <jankohl57 at aol.com>, <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> Message-ID: <000001c99a09$068c2200$13a46600$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi Janine,
>
> At least one good website for looking up towns in Eastern Europe is the
> Jewish Gen ShtetlSeeker at 
> http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp
>
> Zyrardow seems to have no other spelling, Wiskitki is also shown as 
> Wiskiti,
> Blonie seems to have no other spelling, and Piastow seems to have no other
> spelling.
>
> Let me know directly if you need help with the ShtetlSeeker.
>
> Polish phone directory at http://www.ksiazka-telefoniczna.com/ has the
> following information.
>
> Zyrardow has no Dreger, no Meissner, no Wendland, and no Milbradt 
> listings.
>
> Blonie has no Dreger, 2 Meissner, no Wendland, and no Milbradt listings.
>
> Piastow has no Dreger, no Meissner, no Wendland, and no Milbradt listings.
>
> Warszawa has 15 Dreger, 10 Meissner, 3 Wendland, and no Milbradt listings.
>
> Maybe some distant cousins to contact?
>
> Let me know directly if you need help with the Poland phone directory.
>
> Good luck on your search.
>
> Joe in Texas
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org
> [mailto:ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org] On Behalf Of
> jankohl57 at aol.com
> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 11:34 AM
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] DREGER, MEISSNER, WENDLAND, MILBRADT and
> ZYRARDOW
>
>
> Hi folks..just wondering if anyone knows of any local genealogy or
> historical web sites for the ZYRARDOW, WISKITKI, BLONIE area just west of
> Warsaw.? Also, I seem to recall someone mentioning a website that you can
> look up cities/towns by their old name and see what they were called in
> Russian, German or Polish, and what they are called now.? Can someone 
> direct
> me to that please??
> There is a city just west of Warsaw called Piastow.? What other names has
> this been called?? I haven't been to SGGEE for a while, so I will re-post
> may family names of DREGER, MEISSNER, WENDLAND AND MILDRADT.
> Thank you..Janine Gulich
>
> _______________________________________________
> Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by
> Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org
> Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:03:14 -0600
> From: "Beth Burke" <mackzie at earthlink.net>
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Help from the experts!
> To: <ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org>
> Message-ID: <000301c99a09$80de5f50$829b1df0$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> In a written account of my grandmother's early years and immigration, she
> often referred to the city of Dubechna (spelled phoenetically).  I believe
> it might be around/near Lublin, but I don't know for sure.
>
> I am researching the names Friedrich (Gustav), Lieske, Glor and Zellmer.
> The first two surnames are from my mother's side and the second two are 
> from
> my father's side.  Oddly enough, records that I have all seem to indicate
> that they came from the same general area around Lublin.  I don't have any
> evidence that they knew each other, but after immigration to the USA (and
> some to Alberta, CA) they eventually ended up in northeastern Wisconsin.
>
> Any information that all of you - the experts - might have or if you can
> point me in any new directions - would truly be appreciated.
>
> Beth Burke
> Verona, WI
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:30:59 -0600
> From: "joepessarra" <joepessarra at suddenlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Help from the experts!
> To: "'Beth Burke'" <mackzie at earthlink.net>
> Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Message-ID: <000301c99a1e$23d55650$6b8002f0$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi Beth,
>
> ShtetlSeeker at http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp finds 
> these
> towns close in spelling/pronunciation, and close to Lublin, but not all in
> Poland.
>
> Dubeczno populated place 51?26' N 23?26' E  E M U G Poland  39.5 miles ENE
> of Lublin 51?15' N 22?34' E
>
> Dubechno populated place 51?55' N 24?03' E  E M U G Belarus  78.5 miles NE
> of Lublin 51?15' N 22?34' E
>
> Dubechno, Dubechnoye, Dubeczno populated place 51?33' N 24?22' E  E M U G
> Ukraine  80.3 miles ENE of Lublin 51?15' N 22?34' E
>
> Poland phone directory at http://www.ksiazka-telefoniczna.com/ shows the
> following:
>
> Dubeczno has no listings for Friedrich, Lieske, Glor and Zellmer.
>
> Lublin has 2 listings for Friedrich, no listings for Lieske, Glor, and
> Zellmer.
>
> Not a lot of help.  But, there are others in this group who can give you
> some better help, I am sure.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Joe in Texas
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org
> [mailto:ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org] On Behalf Of Beth
> Burke
> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 7:03 PM
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Help from the experts!
>
> In a written account of my grandmother's early years and immigration, she
> often referred to the city of Dubechna (spelled phoenetically).  I believe
> it might be around/near Lublin, but I don't know for sure.
>
> I am researching the names Friedrich (Gustav), Lieske, Glor and Zellmer.
> The first two surnames are from my mother's side and the second two are 
> from
> my father's side.  Oddly enough, records that I have all seem to indicate
> that they came from the same general area around Lublin.  I don't have any
> evidence that they knew each other, but after immigration to the USA (and
> some to Alberta, CA) they eventually ended up in northeastern Wisconsin.
>
> Any information that all of you - the experts - might have or if you can
> point me in any new directions - would truly be appreciated.
>
> Beth Burke
> Verona, WI
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by
> Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org
> Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:39:24 -0800 (PST)
> From: Karl Krueger <dabookk54 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Help from the experts!
> To: "'Beth Burke'" <mackzie at earthlink.net>
> Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Message-ID: <953647.71855.qm at web55303.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Dear Beth,
> When did they leave Dubeczno. If they stayed there until 1940 then a 
> volunteer is now working on this area in EWZ. I could put you in contact 
> with her if they stayed there that long.
>
> Otherwise keep an eye on our Lublin database. They may show up in there 
> too.
> Karl
>
> --- On Sat, 2/28/09, joepessarra <joepessarra at suddenlink.net> wrote:
> From: joepessarra <joepessarra at suddenlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Help from the experts!
> To: "'Beth Burke'" <mackzie at earthlink.net>
> Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 10:30 PM
>
> Hi Beth,
>
> ShtetlSeeker at http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp finds 
> these
> towns close in spelling/pronunciation, and close to Lublin, but not all in
> Poland.
>
> Dubeczno populated place 51?26' N 23?26' E  E M U G Poland  39.5
> miles ENE
> of Lublin 51?15' N 22?34' E
>
> Dubechno populated place 51?55' N 24?03' E  E M U G Belarus  78.5
> miles NE
> of Lublin 51?15' N 22?34' E
>
> Dubechno, Dubechnoye, Dubeczno populated place 51?33' N 24?22' E  E M
> U G
> Ukraine  80.3 miles ENE of Lublin 51?15' N 22?34' E
>
> Poland phone directory at http://www.ksiazka-telefoniczna.com/ shows the
> following:
>
> Dubeczno has no listings for Friedrich, Lieske, Glor and Zellmer.
>
> Lublin has 2 listings for Friedrich, no listings for Lieske, Glor, and
> Zellmer.
>
> Not a lot of help.  But, there are others in this group who can give you
> some better help, I am sure.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Joe in Texas
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org
> [mailto:ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org] On Behalf Of Beth
> Burke
> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 7:03 PM
> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org
> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Help from the experts!
>
> In a written account of my grandmother's early years and immigration, she
> often referred to the city of Dubechna (spelled phoenetically).  I believe
> it might be around/near Lublin, but I don't know for sure.
>
> I am researching the names Friedrich (Gustav), Lieske, Glor and Zellmer.
> The first two surnames are from my mother's side and the second two are
> from
> my father's side.  Oddly enough, records that I have all seem to indicate
> that they came from the same general area around Lublin.  I don't have any
> evidence that they knew each other, but after immigration to the USA (and
> some to Alberta, CA) they eventually ended up in northeastern Wisconsin.
>
> Any information that all of you - the experts - might have or if you can
> point me in any new directions - would truly be appreciated.
>
> Beth Burke
> Verona, WI
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by
> Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org
> Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by
> Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org
> Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Ger-Poland-Volhynia mailing list, hosted by the:
> Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe  http://www.sggee.org
> Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv.html
>
>
> End of Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 69, Issue 24
> ***************************************************