[Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Looking for Joseph family from Zhitomir
Brandt Gibson
ironhide781 at hotmail.com
Mon Jan 5 12:31:22 PST 2009
Hi everyone,
I'm looking for information on the Samuel and Pauline (Rosen) Joseph from Zhitomir. According to the Canadian border crossing records and passenger list records, Sam and his family came from Zhitomir in October 1905. They immigrated through Liverpool, England and landed in Montreal, Quebec, then moved to Winnipeg, Manitoba. I'm trying to see if anyone can find any info on Josephs living in Zhitomir from 1880-1905. The family consisted of:
Samuel Joseph, b. 1866 (in Uljanowka, according to the Canadian border crossings)
Pauline (Rosen) Joseph, b.1871
Olga Joseph b. 1889
Augusta Joseph b. 1892
Emil Joseph b. 1893
Lydia Joseph b. 1894
Helena Joseph b. 1902
I have the ship records of the family leaving England, but I don't know how they got there or where they left from in Russia/Ukraine. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Brandt GibsonFrom: ger-poland-volhynia-request at eclipse.sggee.orgSubject: Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 68, Issue 7To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.orgDate: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 12:00:02 -0800Send Ger-Poland-Volhynia mailing list submissions to ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://eclipse.sggee.org/mailman/listinfo/ger-poland-volhyniaor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ger-poland-volhynia-request at eclipse.sggee.org You can reach the person managing the list at ger-poland-volhynia-owner at eclipse.sggee.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of Ger-Poland-Volhynia digest..."--Forwarded Message Attachment--From: FranklySpeaking at shaw.caTo: ggomes at soundviewnet.com; ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.orgDate: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 15:25:07 -0700Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Teofila MalachowskiGary, Scheple (Szepec) and Ludwischen, though near Lutsk, were in Rozyszcze Parish. Original parish records are not yet extracted but have been microfilmed. See http://www.sggee.org/church_parishes/LutheransInVolhyniaKievPodolia for full list of available records. Unlike the St. Pete records, a marriage record there will most probably provide you with a specific place of birth for her. If not, check for a Confirmation record c.1881 that also often provides a place of birth. Jerry Frank - Calgary, AlbertaFranklySpeaking at shaw.ca At 12:39 PM 04/01/2009, Gary Gomes wrote:>I am seeking help to find information on the family of my great grandmother,>Teofila Malachowski (or Malashevski, etc.).>>Teofila was born October 7, 1867 in Russian Poland. She married Christian>Lange about 1887 and bore a son Edmund in 1888 and a daughter Edmunda in>1889 - I believe in the general Lutsk - Lublin area. Unfortunately these>dates are after the St Petersburg records.>>They migrated to Canada in October 1890; first to Winnipeg and then to>Ebenezer, SK. Christian died before 1896 and Teofila remarried Rudolph>Pachal.>>Intermarried family includes Schindler, Gurel and Pries. The Daniel>Schindlers, who migrated with them to Canada (same ship),show their>residence at time of emigration as Scheple or Ludswischkin (outside Lutsk).>>Any guidance is appreciated.>>Gary Gomes> --Forwarded Message Attachment--From: albertmuth at aol.comTo: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.orgDate: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:01:14 -0500Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Teofila MalachowskiI have checked my transcribed Rozyszcze marriages 1886-1888 and find no record of a marriage between Christian Lange and Teofila Malachowski Are the birth years of the children "written in stone"?? That is, is there a possibility that the marriage could be a year sooner, or a year later? Al Muth -----Original Message-----From: Jerry Frank <FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca>To: Gary Gomes <ggomes at soundviewnet.com>; ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.orgSent: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 5:25 pmSubject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Teofila Malachowski Gary, Scheple (Szepec) and Ludwischen, though near Lutsk, were in Rozyszcze Parish. Original parish records are not yet extracted but have been microfilmed. See http://www.sggee.org/church_parishes/LutheransInVolhyniaKievPodolia for full list of available records. Unlike the St. Pete records, a marriage record there will most probably provide you with a specific place of birth for her. If not, check for a Confirmation record c.1881 that also often provides a place of birth. Jerry Frank - Calgary, AlbertaFranklySpeaking at shaw.ca At 12:39 PM 04/01/2009, Gary Gomes wrote:>I am seeking help to find information on the family of my great grandmother,>Teofila Malachowski (or Malashevski, etc.).>>Teofila was born October 7, 1867 in Russian Poland. She married Christian>Lange about 1887 and bore a son Edmund in 1888 and a daughter Edmunda in>1889 - I believe in the general Lutsk - Lublin area. Unfortunately these>dates are after the St Petersburg records.>>They migrated to Canada in October 1890; first to Winnipeg and then to>Ebenezer, SK. Christian died before 1896 and Teofila remarried Rudolph>Pachal.>>Intermarried family includes Schindler, Gurel and Pries. The Daniel>Schindlers, who migrated with them to Canada (same ship),show their>residence at time of emigration as Scheple or Ludswischkin (outside Lutsk).>>Any guidance is appreciated.>>Gary Gomes> _______________________________________________Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted bySociety for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.orgMailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv --Forwarded Message Attachment--From: cmduff at redwing.netTo: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.orgDate: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:47:17 -0600Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Boguslawka in RozyszczeI'm risking boring many of you but I am posting family again.Primary family: August Schuman b. 17 Jan 1858 supposedly in Deutsche Krone West Prussia Auguste Freiman b. 16 Sept 1864 supposedly in East Prussia The three verified records that I have are: Auguste Pauline Schumann: (not in family memory) b. 13 Dec 1882 in Boguslowka to August Schumann, mother Auguste Freimann(film 1895614/3 547 109) godparents Wilhelm Drager and Bertha (Schumann) Freymann... baptised in Boguslawka prayer house. Fredrich Wilhelm Schumann born: 18 Dec 1885, Boguslawka (1897692/1 376 1594 ) a younger sister remembered him dying of "black diphtheria as well as three other children. Schuhmann, Mathilde 15 Sep 1881 August Auguste 1897594/1 384 1370 Rogoslawka ( think this was meant to be Boguslawka also) supposedly there was also a Karl and a Bertha A. as children Emma Wilhelmina Schumann b 9 Mar 1888 Canadian records list birth as Wolhynia, Shittomir Ida Schumann b. 12 Dec 1889 Gustav Schumann b. 14 May 1889 Minna Helena Schumann b 30 Oct 1893 (family lore says she was born in Eichfier, West Prussia.) Minnie tested positive for TB and had one missing lung.The four youngest children were brought to Canada by grandmother, Caroline (Weinert) Freimann after the last parent, mother, died in 1902. Caroline brought them to Westaskiwin, Alberta where two of her sons, Friedrich Freimann and Karl Freimann were already living. Emma married Gottlieb Jobs in Canada (I believe he is Jabs on the Volhynian records), Ida married Blake Johnston, Gustave died in Mar 1909, Emmaus Lutheran Church, Brightview Cemetery, Wetaskiwin. Other families associated by marriage with this family are Woitt, Warnke, Draeger, Grahn, Graeffen, Grabowsky, Haas, Fee, Westendorf I'd appreciate any further information that anyone has on this family. Beond the 3 birth records, I have no concrete information on the family before they came to Canada on the steamship S.S. Lake Champlain which sailed from Liverpool 28 October and arrived 7 November 1902. The ship was only 1/2 full and they were the only German passengers. > --Forwarded Message Attachment--From: dr.stewner at t-online.deTo: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.orgDate: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:35:19 +0100Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Village Gorka-Gorki in PolandThere are around 30 differently described Gorka/Gorki in the the MPD and 6 in the SGGEE001r9 file of Al Muth.One Gorki is sure: it lays in the Dabie Parish SW of Klodawa at 52°13' Nort and 18° 52' East. There is another one according to the sources in the Babiak parish, where birthes are recorded in four different named locations:"Gorka, Wloclawek", "Gorka, Kolo", "Gorka, Poland",and "Gorki, Poland". The last one is predominent the others only one person per location.And that village is on no map I have. There is another Gorki N of Klodawa at 52°17'N 18°57'E on two ca. 1900 maps at the place where now, 1809 and 1930 is Dlugie. But that village seems to belong to the Przedecz-Parish. Around Babiak there are two villages starting with "Gor": Goraj and Gory. Any help appreciated. Frank Stewner--Forwarded Message Attachment--From: edies_hook at msn.comTo: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.orgDate: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 09:46:41 -0800Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Pronunciation of TSCHERNJACHOWGood Morning! I'm still looking for my elusive paternal grandfather,FRIEDRICH REMPEL/RIMPEL/RIMPLE. New clues (a priceless oral interview on CD with a cousin who has sincepassed away) point to a town near Zhitomir named TSCHERNJACHOW. How would the name Tschernjachow (now known as Czerniachiw, UK) bepronounced/spoken? Cher-nya-chef? SHER-na-koff? Edith Rimple McKelvyedies_hook at msn.com --Forwarded Message Attachment--From: cmduff at redwing.netTo: FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca; ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.orgDate: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 13:14:48 -0600Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Boguslawka in RozyszczeThank you Jerry, this helps a lot. Is this still a village today? Is this close to Anielowka which I didn't see on the map? How far is it from Stieglitz which I _think_ is Pozen? How far from West Prussia where some of the family were born. Jerry Frank wrote:> Carol,>> Boguslawowka in Rozyszcze Parish is located about 10 km NW of Torczyn > or 5 km NNE of Zaturcy.
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